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  • Biden attempted to forgive half a trillion dollars in student loans, and the Supreme Court told him no. He’s still managed to do about $150 billion on his own. In what sense are you saying he’s driving the knife in?
  • Biden is holding up military aid for Israel right now. Too little too fucking late, in my opinion, but you are aware that that’s happening, right? That the leader who is actively killing Palestinians is a whole different world leader on a whole different side of the planet?
  • There’s a whole conversation to be had about 40% reduction in CO2 emissions by 2030; that may be opening up a significant additional topic. But you brought up oil production.

That’s not even the main point. You said elsewhere:

  • You’d “have to” support Israel, even if they were genociding Palestinians just like they are today, if they weren’t on the same side as the US, because you support all enemies of the US uncritically.
  • “There is a discrepancy” between you wanting to drive the US as quickly as possible to its destruction, and being deeply concerned about Biden’s strategy and offering critique to what he’s doing (supposedly, ultimately, to help him win the election.)

I don’t know man. I think you wanna think through that discrepancy at some length. I’m pretty doubtful that you’re sincere about what you’re saying. Sorry.

If you actually are an American and this is actually what you believe, then you should know that I carry the same absurd hope that you’re talking about that the US can do better things. If you want better outcomes for the people inside the United States and less evil done in its name on the world stage, I think there are actually some good ways you can work towards that outcome.

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Biden attempted to forgive half a trillion dollars in student loans,

He restarted loan repayments. Every dollar paid on every loan he didn’t forgive is the knife going deeper.

You’d “have to” support Israel, even if they were genociding Palestinians just like they are today

No no no, I’d have to support the US against Israel. My fault, “I’d have to support it” was ambiguous, it could have been referring to the US’s opposition to Israel or Israel.

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He restarted loan repayments

No he didn’t. The relevant quote is, “But this time is different. The debt ceiling bill’s statutory language will tie Biden’s hands. Barring a new national emergency, he will no longer have the statutory authority to extend the current student loan pause.”

The thing that actually was in his power to do – forgive balances – he did. And, when other parts of the federal government cancelled his order to do a massive forgiveness, he did smaller forgiveness packages that added up to around $150 billion so far.

No no no, I’d have to support the US against Israel. My fault, “I’d have to support it” was ambiguous, it could have been referring to the US’s opposition to Israel or Israel.

Got it. Makes sense. So what made you change your mind? What’s different about Israel if they were an enemy of the US that would make you not support them (in a way that you would some other small middle-eastern country that was an enemy of the US)?

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So what made you change your mind?

I didn’t, the “oppose the US and you’ll be on the right side” heuristic only describes the end result, the core is still anti-imperialism. That is a weird scenario where the US is incidentally opposing its own imperialism.

Same with the US opposition to ISIS after they supplied them with weapons and trucks and personnel they trained and radicalized to fight Assad.

Same with the US opposition to Nazi Germany after they supplied them with materials and weapons to crush the communist at home and in hope they’d go after the USSR.

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