Huge W. Maybe the Stop Killing Games campaign, combined with some very real market realities, will save more games like this from companies with the liberty to do so. Unfortunately, it sounds like multiplayer will likely still depend on Steam servers rather than supporting LAN (I’d be happy to be proven wrong), but this is way better than the game just dying.

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Gotcha. As I said in the original blurb, I’d prefer some way to play the game LAN that it seems like they’re not doing. V Rising and most survival games, for all that I can tell, preserve all of those elements of MMOs or MMO lites, and it exposes how unnecessary it is to take away the ability for the player to host their own servers. Even in a best-case scenario where the game is super successful, you can run into things like login queues or server maintenance, so having the ability to play the game no matter what is a must for me. Survival games tend to lean into the use case of people who want to PVP and grief other players, which isn’t for me, and I’d much rather co-op with some friends, but since I control the server, I absolutely have the ability to tune it that way. And since these games account for dozens of players on the same instance (Factorio goes up to 255), you’re capable of replicating all of those random interactions, for as rare as they actually are in a game like Destiny or Warframe, which are my frame of reference for MMO lite games, because they have you spend most of your time in instances for only a few players.

Have you played Wayfinder before to say how much of the game up to this point was built on those larger scale random interactions as opposed to small instances with a few players?

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Wayfinder had both. There were these randomly generated dungeons akin to Warframr instanced missions or Destiny strikes, but also had a open world zone with events and such for a more MMO feeling. New bigger zones were of course promised along with mounts. Raids were mentioned, as were guilds and guild housing and other social features.

I get the desire to have a game playable offline, it’s valid. And maybe the game will end up being enjoyable as single player. But that’s not what made me personally interested. But oh well, my bad for buying into early access, I was due to get burned on it I guess. At least I went for the lowest pack (I did try asking for a refund but I played a bit, so not having high hopes)

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