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Why does Biden support genocide?

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If Trump were in office, he’d be endorsing the rape torture and abuse explicitly. If we lived in an alternate universe and Hillary was on her second term, she’d do nothing to stop Isreal and keep weapons flowing, if Obama was on his fourth term, he’d do nothing, if W was on his 6th term? We would still be in a perpetual war with multiple countries in the middle east and Israel would be a key supporter. He would probably help with the genocide with boots on the ground.

A large portion of the reason Isreal never reached a settlement with Palistine and kept up with their perpetual war and ethnic cleansing is due to the US preferring they do it this way. Obama’s foreign policy was to do whatever the military suggested, as his administrative advisers said ‘‘A Democrat can’t say no to the military’’. Bush’s administration never even bothered to have internal justifications for any military endeavor. Trump is the most evangelical president we’ve ever had, he constantly did whatever evangelicals wanted, and war in Isreal, antagonism and aggression to Arab nations is one of their top priorities, as according to their beliefs Jesus will not come again until the Temple is rebuilt, sacrifices are made, and a world war or multinational middle eastern war against Isreal happens, once they have nearly been destroyed THEN Jesus comes again. Hillary likely would have the same policy Obama did, let the military do whatever it wants so you don’t get called soft of foreign policy in the next election cycle.

Biden likely has the exact same policy. Like so many issues in the US, even in our fantasies there’s no alternative to what horrible shit were doing now.

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Sorry but Democrats have to do better than “or else Trump.”

I don’t know how you people don’t understand that yet. I also don’t know how I’m supposed to believe your uncited claims when you spell Palestine incorrectly.

But sure keep on doing your same old stick. I’m trying to get out by November and the Democrats can get purged by Trump for all I give a shit. My great-grandparents took their money and fled Nazi Germany for the United States and I will do the same for South America. If the left is too weak and cowardly to stop the fascism from progressing then it’s going to come to the same conclusion regardless. And the left is embarrassingly weak and complicit with the right.

I used to be an activist and I’ve been on the police s*** list for the better part of 10 years in my area so I am experiencing a lot of anxiety about what will happen if Trump gets reelected. At the same time I am experiencing a lot of despair that I was never able to motivate almost anyone to bother even voting.

When you see both parties openly supporting a genocide, it’s time to fucking run. If Democrats can sit here and make up justifications for why it’s happening to the Palestinians they will do the same thing when the right comes for the actual left.

Every time I see a list of atrocities that the Republicans are going to commit if they get elected as some kind of motivation to vote, it makes me sick to my stomach. If you want me to vote then give me a candidate I want to vote for who shares any kind of moral compass with me.

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All we have seen is decline. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents: continues progress. People in BRICS countries have that today.

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Biden is the president now.

Regardless as to what happens in a few months, the current sitting US president through action and inaction is endorsing genocide. It doesn’t matter who else exists, because the office isn’t held by anyone else.

We should be able to have a conversation about human rights abuses without invoking the name of someone worse.

I don’t imagine many people are on the fence about who they’re going to vote for and constantly screaming about the Cheeto any time criticism of the president is brought up really only serves as admission that yeah, Biden is that bad.

All I see is deflection, constantly. No one wants to talk about Biden, successes or failures. It’s as if the only exists as a comparison to Trump. And if a candidate only looks good when compared to a pile of shit, then he isn’t a good candidate.

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I really believe that the only difference in outcome for Palestine between Biden and Trump will be who lies about their feelings better. Trump doesn’t give a s*** and will pretend to care and Biden doesn’t give a s*** and will pretend to care in the other direction.

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I mean, I read the response you replied to as “it not just biden, it is the system as a whole, and anyone that ever got close to being president”.

And I agree. every president you have, there is some unjust war you are involved. As americans get pissed with their president, the rest of the world just rolls their eyes and says “here they go again”.

genocides are gonna keep happening as long as you keep voting for these dumbasses in your primaries. And I can’t see the situation changing anytime soon.

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Do you think the 8 years Biden was Obama’s VP and the policy that administration had on foreign policy and the military ISN’T relevent to the Biden’s Amin policy?

You’re asking to talk about Biden’s policy WITHOUT bringing up Bidens political history? Without brining up Trump, the man he is currently running against, and who’s policy and rhetoric is CLEARLY effecting domestic policy for Biden’s Admin, and ignoring the US’s overall polices over the last 20+ years that we have been militarily involved in the Middle East?

What are we allow to discuss? Biden’s horoscope?

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Trump isn’t in office. This is a question about Biden.

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Biden isn’t living in a bubble, he’s running against Trump, and it’s clearly effecting his domestic policy heavily, anyone can see he’s trying to shore up weaknesses Biden has against Trump’s old policies and rhetoric. If you can’t grasp that Biden is making decisions based on the 8 years he was in the legislator under W, the 8 years he was VP under Obama and he 4 years he’s been president, compared to Trump’s 4, and the current race for President against Trump’s record and current talking points, you’re not capable of having a conservation about politics.

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I don’t know. Probably because he’s taken the most money from Israel of any US politician alive?

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Oil

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More like arms sales.

We have evolved past needing to plunder a resource, we just need someone to blow up so we can launder the public trust to Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, which makes the stocks that all of the Federally elected individuals own in spades rise even further.

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Christian nationalism.

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Because Biden is a racist.

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Our whole system supports genocide. America supports genocide. We need to go deeper than biden to address this issue.e

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Ya, but Biden is the current one who is directing Blinken to broker the repeating multi billion dollar deals, so he is the one that matters right now.

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Israel is our 51st and most important state.

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Israel played their card when they lost the Yom Kippur war and they played it well enough that politicians won’t even talk about it. It’s called the Samson option and they already exercised it against Nixon. He should have let them launch their 13 nukes or whatever back then because now they have enough to destroy the world.

They threatened to Nuke Europe unless Nixon bought them a whole new Air Force and replaced all their military losses, preventing them from being destroyed after losing the Yom Kippur war. That strategy has never changed since it worked that time.

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It’s simple. If The Jews don’t reside in The Holy Land, then Blue Eyed, Capitalist Jesus won’t come back to gather up his American Evangelical Flock into his sinewy, shirtless embrace, while the Heathens are Stomped On Like Grapes In A Wine Press by the Very Angery Angels. I’m not exaggerating. This is what’s happening.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/truth-many-evangelical-christians-support-israel-rcna121481

https://apnews.com/article/evangelical-christians-israel-volunteer-trips-462329e04459191fd6ae061e722cae30

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/the-bottom-line/2023/12/26/why-do-evangelical-christians-support-israel

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Glad we can confirm we still live in the fucken Dark Ages.

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