168 points

One of the darkest examples of “every accusation is a confession.”

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That was my exact thought. I wonder how long they’d been doing this prior to October 7.

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There were many many reports of rapes and sexual abuse of detainees going back before the second intifada but increased in number since then. The IDF always brushed off press questions saying they’re lying but they’ll “investigate.”

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6 points

I suspected as much. This kind of thing doesn’t materialize from nowhere.

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138 points

Fucking medieval torture mindset with permanent crusade base.

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Similar to the reports of Russian soldiers putting plastic pipes up people’s butts to feed up razor wire to pull out slowly after the pipe is removed, or China putting electric shock sticks up people’s butts among the Uyghur camps.

Humans suck.

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Or Americans hooking Abu Gharib prisoners up to car batteries.

Or Saudis dismembering Jamal Khashoggi with a bone saw while still alive.

Or Italy’s practice of deliberately sinking refugee floatillas in the Mediterranean so as to deny migrants asylum claims.

Humans suck.

#NotAllHumans

We know and care about these atrocities because we don’t all suck. But there is definitely an economic structure in place that rewards this behavior as well as a fascist media apparatus that both censors and celebrates it.

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While I’m sure that there was torture at Abu Ghraib, including electrocution, I’d just like to note that car batteries are typically only at 12 volts (sometimes 24) and at that voltage potential can’t really harm people. They could have wired up multiple batteries in series but I think it’s more likely they just used cables connected to an outlet.

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Nah I’m gonna keep saying all humans because this has been the norm since the beginning.

We act like we’re not animals but that card is always in the back pocket just waiting for an excuse to pop out.

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Source for the razor wire claim? Seems like obvious war time propaganda to me and I can’t find anything online.

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You can listen to the intercepted phone call where an alleged Russian soldier describes the methods to his mother for yourself:

https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/10/russian-torturers-phone-call-with-mum-reveals-russian-torture-methods-16618041/

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Source (they put the actual torture and rape at paragraph 9999 after all the israeli propaganda)

The interrogators accused him of Hamas membership and showed him photographs of militants to see if he could identify them. They also asked him about the whereabouts of hostages, as well as a senior Hamas leader who lived near Mr. Bakr’s family home. When Mr. Bakr denied any connection to the group or knowledge of the pictured men, he was beaten repeatedly, he said.

Mr. al-Hamlawi, the senior nurse, said a female officer had ordered two soldiers to lift him up and press his rectum against a metal stick that was fixed to the ground. Mr. al-Hamlawi said the stick penetrated his rectum for roughly five seconds, causing it to bleed and leaving him with “unbearable pain.”

A leaked draft of the UNRWA report detailed an interview that gave a similar account. It cited a 41-year-old detainee who said that interrogators “made me sit on something like a hot metal stick and it felt like fire,” and also said that another detainee “died after they put the electric stick up” his anus.

Mr. al-Hamlawi recalled being forced to sit in a chair wired with electricity. He said he was shocked so often that, after initially urinating uncontrollably, he then stopped urinating for several days. Mr. al-Hamlawi said he, too, had been forced to wear nothing but a diaper, to stop him from soiling the floor.

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For some reason the fact that this was published on D-Day made it even more poignant.

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What is D-Day?

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Hey can you cw the pic and edit the title for sa content?

I think I people should know about this story and I’m not asking so that people can avoid the shock of it, but so that people who have been assaulted can avoid being re-exposed to their experiences.

Thanks for all your goodposts.

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I am not entirely sure how to put content warnings in the title, i added the words CW at the front is that how it is supposed to be done?

It is difficult to post the reality for Palestinians without people experiencing shock or depression from it. However it needs to be posted to raise awareness to the issue.

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I think you blur the picture if you got one and put a more general description in the title so people can’t just get blam cammed with “rape with a foriegn object” while they’re baby huey scrolling along.

I agree that people need to be shocked by this stuff. It’s tough balance between having a safe space and spongebob pointing out the window at a huge pile of atrocities.

Thanks for doing your best instead of pushing back. The first time someone asked me to cw something I was uhh, much more combative.

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91 points

CoMpLex sItUaTiOn

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ISrAeL hAs A rIgHt tO dEfEnD iTsElF

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mOsT MoRaL aRmY

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31 points

To be fair prisoners of war being raped to death to humiliate them is pretty complex mental issue. We know that psyhopathy can sometimes be acquired as a trait, and it seems Israel has ways of inducing it. Interestingly enough, Nazis invented similar stuff as well… Oh, no, no, I’m not comparing the two. Just an off hand comment. Move along.

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12 points

I mean, if the genocidal shoe fits…

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44 points

israel is a terror organisation.

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1 point

Israilian goverment to be more specific

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that government is democratically elected. the people who elected it share the guilt.

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Ah, yes. Very democratically elected. Everywhere.

In my shithole it’s not. And I wouldn’t be surprised if same applies to Israel - country where Putin buys DPIs and facial recognition from.

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