Vladimir Putin has demanded that Kyiv cede more land, withdraw troops deeper inside its own country, and drop its Nato bid in order for him to end Russia’s war in Ukraine.

Putin’s fresh ceasefire demands were issued as envoys from more than 90 countries, including Ukraine, convene in Switzerland this weekend to discuss a western-led peace plan. Russia is not invited to the conference and the president’s remarks on Friday were likely to have been timed as a spoiler to that summit.

Speaking with diplomats at the Russian foreign ministry, Putin publicly updated his terms for ending the war in Ukraine for the first time since he launched a full-scale invasion in February 2022, when he demanded regime change in Kyiv and the country’s “demilitarisation”.

The US defence secretary, Lloyd Austin, said Putin was in “no position” to make demands on Ukraine and could end the war he had started “today if he chose to do that.”

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You realize that Nato is a defense alliance, dedicated to protecting other member states. Ukraine is NOT a member of Nato. And cannot currently join Nato, because only a country not at war can join.

It has been said that the literal minute this war ends, Ukraines application is all but already passed. But that can’t happen until they end the war. Which means either Putin loses, and goes home, Putin takes all of Ukraine 100% defeated and absorbed into russia, or Ukraine wins the war on their terms.

Until then, Nato is mostly bound to stay out of foreign affairs by their own mission statement

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Then they are fucking morons and deserve the nukes. Only feckless pussies sit there and watch the imperial force roll over a country and say “welp, cant do anything about it because they’re not our buddies!” These motherfuckers will break all kinds of “regulations” if some billionaire asks for it, so I’m not buying it. “Ukraine can join after the war” is sheer fucking insanity.

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Feel free to join Ukraine as a voluntary fighter. Many have done so. Or keep spouting shit here about others. Put your money where your mouth is, Sir Feckless.

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Aaaawwww arent you just adorable!

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Can’t do anything? Where have you been for the past 2 years? The west has lead the most massive material aid program since world war 2

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World War is not the solution you think it is

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Tell me you know nothing about nuclear warfare without saying you don’t know nothing about nuclear warfare.

Either that or you really want to see the whole earth in ashes.

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No, I fully understand. I just dont act like a weak, pathetic Putin apologist telling Ukraine to fuck off when they know damn well that it doesnt stop with Ukraine. I swear to fucking Cthulhu the entire world has turned into a bunch of dormat pussies just waiting to get shoved into gas chambers.

Fuck

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Let’s all send Angela Merkel a big flaming poop basket for ensuring that didn’t happen when they had the chance.

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Exactly this. People are so deluded that NATO aren’t a world police force and isn’t just a pact to protect its members is unreal

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