Comment by Maple Engineer@lemmy.world on I’ve got a fossil fuel non-proliferation treaty baby, and I’ll write your name: Just Stop Oil paint private jets hours after Taylor Swift’s lands

Wait until they find out how much it’s going to cost them to repaint the jets that they vandalized.

Can’t squeeze blood from a stone. The cost to repaint those jets is going to be a lot more than they can ever recoup from the activists.

It’s apparently water soluable so the paint should come off easily. The expensive part is going to be cleaning the engines and external instruments if they need to be cleaned and reccalibrated or recertified. The courts have been handing out serious sentences running into the multiple years so they may have that coming as well.

I’m not aware of any committed activist that was ever deterred by a prison sentence. But they are usually pretty poor so my original point stands.

Well at least they won’t have to worry about feeding, clothing, and housing themselves for a while.

Lol yeah

Edit to add - I meant to add, and they’ll find a whole bunch of disaffected people ripe for recruiting to a direct action cause. But my ADHD brain forgot. :(

Damn, guess it’s better to let the environment collapse and our species to go extinct because capitalism and money is more important.

I didn’t say that I disagreed with their goals. I just understand that they did hundreds of thousands of pounds of damage to those jets that will make absolutely zero difference to their carbon footprint and will probably be held financially responsible. A big win for the activists for sure.

Because activists like them are known for rollin’!

Declare bankruptcy and rinse and repeat.

With an ASBO and jail time, without convincing anyone, and hardening public opinion against their cause. A big win for the extremists for sure.

How can you be sure they don’t convince anyone? I’m not sure, but I think you made that up - as it matches what you feel

Do you think it convinced the motorists who have beaten them and dragged them off the road by their hair? Or the people responsible for the preservation of Stone Henge? Or the wealthy people whose jets they painted? I can’t prove a negative, of course, or religion would be gone but you may be right, they may have convinced someone.

How does this harden public opinion against their cause? This is the type of shit we want to see. There’s a difference between this and inconveniencing those who are commuting to work.

This is the type of shit you want to see, not the public.

Activists doing things activists like to see, won’t motivate many others than the people who already are motivated.

Who cares about that, the rich can foot the bill.

They will and they won’t care. It will do nothing to change anyone’s mind but will harden public opinion against the extremists.

I don’t think the general public cares about Taylor Swift needing to get her jet re-painted. Only Swifties will care.

No, but the public have shown that they are frustrated with the extremists and the courts have handed down multi-year sentences of incarceration in a growing number of cases. The public react with revulsion to extremists.

We should be extreme in our opposition to the climate disaster currently unfolding. The heat is extreme, the hurricanes extreme, the drought is extreme, the crop failures are extreme and the dead and dying ecosystems are extreme.

We the public have been politely asking for climate solutions for decades while the extremist oil and gas companies hid the extent of their knowledge from us and used lies to convince half the population nothing is wrong. Even now, the oil and gas lobby lie and plan for expansion into poorer countries where western regulations can’t touch touch them. They’ll burn every drop, take every dollar, and Fuck over everything in doing it.

So you know what? When I see these people throwing paint on things, gluing themselves down, and causing tension I say good, good for them, be extreme. These protestors have convinced me over the last couple of years with these acts and nothing they’ve done is anywhere near as extreme as climate change.

Climate change is killing people, right now, probably thousands every year, that’s fucking extreme and its getting worse. These protestors threw paint on objects.

Maybe it will work. I guess we’ll see if they can convince the people who control the governemnt, military, and police that a few people glued to the road should change their unchecked avarice.

Why is it that you keep referring to them as extremists? You seem bad faith as fuck all over this post.

They believe that their actions are justified because they believe that they are morally superior. They are self-absolving. That is the hallmark of extremists of all types.

That’s why.

The public who would otherwise care so much about this nightmare that we keep barrelling towards… people who use that “frustration with extremists” are just justifying to themselves what they would have done anyway, which is nothing.

I’m getting more and more sure - you’re just making things up claiming to know what the “public” thinks. Did you call up 1800 British people to know this or are you just assuming everyone thinks like you do?

No, you’re probably right. They might have convinced someone.

I think that’s true for Stone Henge, the Mona Lisa, gluing themselves to roads, etc.

I think targeting high profile extremely wealthy people is different and will be much more effective. I guess time will tell.

Perhaps. With the near iron grip that the wealthy have on most governments I don’t expect anything to change because a few people glued themselves to the road or threw a bit of paint on some rich assholes jets.

Actually about 0$ because they always use stuff thats removable with water. Otherwise they would be bankrupt.

Plus trespass at the airport plus cleaning and testing all of the external instrumentation plus…they can really stack it on.

It looks like turmeric

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