ACAB, especially that bastard relative of yours.

The capitalist state and it’s forces in the form of Police and Military primarily exist to protect the private property of the rich. All other functions are secondary.

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That said, [the police’s] main job at the moment is to protect hoarders of wealth from the social consequences of wealth hoarding.

We are all wealth hoarders. What are the social consequences of wealth hoarding? Is it okay to steal? How much does a person have to have before it’s okay to steal? Most of the people of the world live on a couple of US dollars a day. Is it okay for them to steal your wallet when you have 40 dollars?

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Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity (“I’m just trying to have a debate”), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter. It may take the form of “incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate”, and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings. The term originated with a 2014 strip of the webcomic Wondermark by David Malki, which The Independent called “the most apt description of Twitter you’ll ever see”.

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Wow you just described all the conservatives I’ve ever talked with.

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As an aside, i still remember someone on reddit going off their shits accusing me of sealioning when they kept spewing out highly specific buzzwords and i kept very genuinely asking them what the everloving fuck they were on about.

Not to mention that accusatory shit gets…problematic with people who are ASD.

Either respond to the question or ‘nah bro’. Not every thing needs to be high dramatics.

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If you have $40 to your name, the cops are just much more likely to beat you and take it, than they are to protect you from someone else taking it.

Cops don’t actually spend much time on solving crimes, they mostly spend their time ticketing and harassing the poor in favor of the rich.

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Much more likely? What country are you talking about? Assuming we are talking about the United States, this is just not true.

The police are not that cartoonishly evil like most posters here seem to think they are.

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Let me introduce you to asset forfeiture, which is a thing cops do to steal from people by claiming that the property or money was guilty of a crime. The owner isn’t actually allowed to argue in defense of their stuff, because the owner isn’t on trial, their stuff is.

If you’re poor and a minority, you have it much worse.

A quote from that last one;

Police seized as little as $25 in cash, a cologne gift set worth $20 and crutches.


Now, contrast that to this little article that says police solve about 2% of all major crime, and you see the reality of American policing.

They rob the poor and then ignore crime in favor of harassing the poor a bit more. So yes, if you only have $40 to your name, cops will not protect your money, they’re more likely to take it from you.

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You can just say you’ve never lived outside upper-middle class suburbia, it’s ok

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There’s a difference between saving money so you can live and hoarding it. It’s fine to want to have a secure future for yourself and to be able to help the people you care about. If you have so much money that you could trivially buy people out of poverty, but you don’t because you’d rather have seven yachts and a bigger bank account, we have a problem.

The social consequences of wealth hoarding have traditionally been decapitation once they actually catch up. I imagine it’s probably a little less extreme in this day and age, but we won’t really know that until the hoarders push things beyond the tolerance of the average person.

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There’s a difference between saving money so you can live and hoarding it.

Okay, what’s the difference? 100,000? 500,000? 5,000,000?

f you have so much money that you could trivially buy people out of poverty, but you don’t because you’d rather have seven yachts and a bigger bank account, we have a problem.

Who has seven yachts? Most wealthy people invest their money. The only reason you know the names of billionaires is that Forbes magazine publishes their names. You have no idea who all the millionaires are and what they do with their money.

If we’re speaking of social consequences and eliminating people, it makes more sense for the populace to go after crooked politicians and judges than rich people. Just saying.

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Go away, capitalist bootlicker.

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point: completely missed. Impressively so

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How many of them did I throw into the gears of capitalism to get my $40?

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