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There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses.

โ€“ Bjarne Stroustrup

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True, but I see this quote repeated so often that it kind of bugs me. It seems to be used in a thought-terminating way. As if we shouldnโ€™t criticize languages. As if they arenโ€™t tools that are able to be improved upon, or theyโ€™re all made equal. But Iโ€™m sure Bjarne Stroustrup needs to fend off hostility and unfair criticism as much as any programmer with a successful language.

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oh i never considered that reading of the quote

i read it as more: complaints about a language, particularly the amount of complaints, donโ€™t mean it is a Bad Language that should be dropped in favor of something else

in fact the complaints validate that the language is being used by people, and thatโ€“the number of people actually using the language to Do Thingsโ€“is imo a decent proxy metric for the usefulness of the language

so please complain about your languagesโ€™ shortcomings! i hate so many things about terraform / sh / python / golang / java and will gladly rant at length, and then go right back to using them

except groovy

fuck groovy

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