298 points

Microsoft really needs an antitrust smackdown with their repeated behavior.

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So does Google though if we’re being honest.

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Microsoft saying “stop using Google” is actually totally fine with me.

But only if they’re saying “go get Firefox.”

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Shouldn’t Apple be the focus of efforts?

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Why not both?

I think in reality the Chrome web browser is a huge threat to Internet freedom and should be a top priority.

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29 points

That didn’t work in the 90s.

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Or in:

  • 2000
  • 2002
  • 2003
  • 2005
  • 2008
  • 2011
  • (2022)

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_litigation

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25 points

Kuduos to you doing your HW. :)

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1 point

Yes

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In retrospect, DoJ didn’t go far enough back then and ignored Microsoft’s anti-competitive behavior with BeOS.

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Part of it was Reagan massively weakened antitrust law after Ma Bell was broken up.

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Which sucked because BeOS was really good for its time.

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Looking at the lobbying with the MS-Activision mess, and how broken the government here is. I’m sure they would of gave in.

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It might work if the fine was a couple hundred billion, we can give them a payment plan.

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28 points

Yes they do!

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If you need more ammunition they recently also changed it so all links in Outlook opens in Edge even if it’s not the default browser. You have to go to settings and find an entirely separate default browser setting to stop it.

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I switched to Thunderbird because of that bullshit. It’s getting worse. I’ll be looking for a good Linux distro for my next laptop.

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I didn’t think that sort of thing happened anymore

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It’s because of shit like this that I’m glad I switched to Linux.

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I wish I could. My gaming rig has an nvidia gpu and linux support really sucks because of the proprietary driver situation…
Steams new gamepad ui is a slideshow running at 5fps and I loose HDR so I have to remain on Windows for now. Every other desktop I own is UNIX tho.

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linux support really sucks because of the proprietary driver situation.

Stop listening to everyone online. The driver situation “sucks” because of ideologies (which I happen to agree with), but from a functionality perspective Nvidia’s Linux drivers are solid.

The same driver you install is the same driver they use in their half a million dollar DGX AI systems. And those systems don’t run Windows. Only Linux.

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Those drivers are stable, but older. I get errors playing new games because my drivers are always 5-10 versions older than their windows equivalents.

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He’s right about the new gamepad UI for steam though… it’s completely unusable in Linux from my experience (the old big picture UI worked fine)

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A few others have mentioned Pop_OS! for their Nvidia driver support which is what I’m running too. I think I’m on version 535.93 or something like that. Most of the Ubuntu downstream (Ubuntu, mint, pop_os, etc,.) already include The proprietary drivers in their repos. Pop_OS is known for Nvidia support being a bit quicker than the others.

I’d suggest looking into dual booting (thats what I do, there are a few things that work better on windows). It’s super easy to set up, and it’s an easy low risk way to see if it works for you.

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My gaming rig has an Nvidia GPU as well, and it runs mostly without any problems (I’ve had to manually update drivers a couple of times) on POP!_OS

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Can you try to run the big picture/ gamepad UI and see if it lag? This my only real issue blocking me from switching back

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I use a gaming laptop with an Nvidia GPU and linux support does not ‘really suck.’

The only downside I have is one you wouldn’t experience because you’re not using a laptop.

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The only downside I have is one you wouldn’t experience because you’re not using a laptop.

Optimus/Bumblebee/IGPU switching/whatever?

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I want to dual boot because I prefer Linux for everything but some niche games. Just never got around to it. This is pretty motivating.

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Check https://www.protondb.com to check the status of compatibility of the game on Linux

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My reason was that I had heard windows 11 was considering ads in their file explorer. Win10 already has enough prompts pushing edge and OneDrive. That, and many of my professors use Linux, and the ease with which they would install Python or C compilers was too much.

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This is a good way if someone really Like some games not working on Linux. Also it can keep work and fun separated.

I can recommend setting up encryption when installing Linux system to make Windows programs unable to access your files.

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Do it. It’s not as hard as it used to be thanks to systemd-boot existing. I literally reinstalled Windows the other day and nothing happened to systemd-boot. GRUB, is a bit of a mess though.

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The only issues I had with dual booting is an out of sync clock (due to Windows using local time), and Windows wiped one of my Linux drives (I installed Windows second, so unplug any unused drives before installing Windows). The last issue I am still unsure what caused it, however I remember installing Windows and the next time I use Linux the drive is empty.

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Can’t use VR or HDR on Linux sadly. Those are the only two things holding me back.

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SteamVR exists on Linux. HDR is coming

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So I can use my Rift S on Linux? If so, then awesome.

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Running my Valve Index in Mint Xfce rn.

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My man! (y)

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Lookin’ good!

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98 points

Just a reminder that if you’re using Windows, it’s not your property but Microsoft’s one

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Right but licenses for pro are £200 RRP.

Don’t then beg me to use your services, just fuck off and let me use Windows how I want

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12 points

No different than Chrome.

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They’re talking windows in general

This goes for both chrome and bing: If a service is free, you are the product.

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If a service is free, you are the product.

Linux?

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Nothing Microsoft does is good. Nothing google does is good.

Choose an alternative that values you.

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I don’t even value me, no corporation gives a crap. They want you and your recurrent income.

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meirl

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So don’t go with a mainstream option.

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This “solution” completely ignores the volumes of software that is still only compatible with Windows. This is exactly the belief that Microsoft wants you to have: the illusion that you have a choice between Windows and other, equal alternatives. And before someone starts spouting off about WINE: it truly is a wonderful piece of software, and I don’t mean to disparage any of its talented contributors, but it will likely never even approach feature parity with Windows. I mean, it still can’t run the industry standard 3D modeling program.

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I want you and your recurrent income.

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30 points

Linux and Firefox with uBlock Origin.

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I’ll settle for one that has a vague indifference to me.

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Slackware

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The problem is that Linux’s user experience is simply not good enough for normal users.

It’s absolutely correct to blame Microsoft and Google. But Linux also needs to do more to appeal to non-tech people.

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Hi, average user here, I’ve been daily driving Linux (primarily Ubuntu) for a decade or more. Most of my life in a computer is spent in a web browser, word document, or maybe a spreadsheet. Even at my office job it’s the same, except for some proprietary time tracking and billing software. I’d imagine 90 percent of consumers spend the vast majority of their time on computers in the web browser. Most people don’t mess around with much beyond that.

I just don’t understand what is lacking in the Linux user experience. It’s not any different from a Windows user learning to use a Mac computer. Figure out how to connect to wifi, figure out how to mess with the volume, open a browser and that’s it.

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I’m sorry, but I kind of doubt you are what I consider a “normal user”, seeing as you’re in a technology community on Lemmy. Just the fact that you are here indicates a higher than average tech literacy.

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With the way the average person uses a computer, the Linux user experience would probably melt their brains. No offense to the average computer user, but we have seen time and time again that they are not the brightest when it comes to tech literacy or just don’t care and refuse to care since it goes against the grain, so to speak.

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That’s probably not going to happen

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I’m holding onto hope actually. I recently started dual-bootung into Mint and the installation process was a breeze. The only thing I could imagine a “typical” user finding difficult is setting up the flash drive for booting/installation. The UI is nice and familiar too. As a Linux newbie I hear that Mint is basically Ubuntu, and that (modern) Ubuntu is hot garbage, but even if it caused my computer to take an actual shit on the floor, it still beats Windows by a country mile.

I think (perhaps too optimistically) that with some more awareness we could see a fairly sizeable migration.

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Which is why we’re still stuck with Windows…

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Meh gamepass is cool for now. It will probably go up in price and become shitty when they get enough market share but until then it is super cool. And honestly I think bing/edge is now the better choice as a search engine/browser compared to Google/chrome. But no way I will give up my Firefox.

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Edge (and that joke Brave) is chromium and that supports google’s control of the web. Firefox, or Safari on a Mac, don’t use google’s tech.

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Firefox is the best for me. I thought chromium was open source though and not necessarily owned by Google.

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There needs to be a legally mandated option to turn off all recommendations and tracking, and to require consent to enable it in the first place.

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So pretty much just an extension of GDPR. Sounds good.

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Or the courts should force MS to split off into an os company, an online services company, an office productivity software company, and a gaming company.

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If we had an actual anti-monopoly/umbrella corporation law that would be badass.

Hell Amazon would tank instantly, since they just operate on pumping AWS profits into their loss leader (Amazon delivery) constantly.

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So would Google to some extent. This actually sounds like a good plan. We should go back to the 90’s antitrust law. Before we made it toothless and basically unenforceable.

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Fuck yeah! Lets do some trust bustin!

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