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They actually plan to use some local stuff in addition to the rest, otherwise I don’t trust anything OpenAI/Google.

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trustworthy AI

Our initial offering will include ChatGPT, Google Gemini, HuggingChat, and Le Chat Mistral

What

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Defund Mozilla lmao. Absolute shipwreck of a company at this point.

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Did you read the article? Why would adding an option to use ai in a side bar require shuttering a company?

“this week, we will launch an opt-in experiment”

And

“those who have opted-in will have the option to access their preferred AI service from the Firefox sidebar”

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If you are so keen to know, then you will just have to wait a few more years. Firefoxes development is rapidly derailing into nonsense recently. They will have to either kick out their current leadership or they will be reduced to a data sucking, adware company sooner or later.

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At least this is opt-in, and Firefox still allows for manifest v3 extensions, and, on the whole, isn’t using a engine funded by a billion dollar company that’s doing everything in it’s power to spy on you.

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Yeah i was kinda overreacting but it really isnt looking good for firefoxes future at this point imo. As long as its open source there will at least be forks like librewolf.

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Their whole company is funded by a billion dollar company that’s doing everything in its power to spy on you.

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You mean v2?

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Who do we turn to for a browser? Not chromium based I don’t trust google codebase.

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Yeah idk either sadly. But i know that having only two relevant browsers on the market is like the US party system. Destined to fail.

Nothing lasts forever just like Steam or anything else will one day turn to shit. But pretending like everything is fine will just lead to lots of “we shouldve seen it coming”.

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Idk I still hope a Servo-based browser somehow materializes itself someday, but if/when that happens, who knows.

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Orion for macOS is pretty awesome.

I actually love Safari but on my work computer I’m forced to use their VPN and can’t run my ad blocking DNS stuff on it, so I use Orion with uBlock Origin on it. It’s basically Safari (built on WebKit) with support for Chrome and Firefox plug-ins (which can be selectively disabled).

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I would relatively ok with an implementation of Le Chat Mistral

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“Trustworthy AI” + Recent aquisiton of an advertising analytics company + a call for people to inform on third party sources of Firefox = Down the enshitification rabbit hole we go.

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Any recommendations of a good alternative on android? I’m thinking I’ll move to librewolf on desktop but they don’t appear to have an android version.

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I do like Mull, but I’m also uninformed and I don’t use my mobile browser all too much.

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Fair enough, research time for me! Thanks for the reply

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I use a fork from F-Droid called Fennec. I’m not sure off the top of my head how closely it tracks with upstream feature-wise but I know it strips out all of Mozilla’s tracking components and it’s always updated within a couple days of the upstream release.

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Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll check it out!

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I use Fennec F-Droid on Android and LibreWolf on Linux/Mac/Windows.

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Thanks for the recommendation :D

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Everybody in the know is already using privacy forks on PC and phones… i guess it is time to get normies on boarded.

Man, they really are making it complicated though. If you want to fight them, jgot to keep switching. They know normies won’t :/

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I wish they spent their time fixing bugs, rather than implementing this bullshit

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Why not both? A large project like this needs to fix bugs and also continue to refine its features for long term relevance.

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You will never achieve long-term relevance, by chasing immediately available buzzwords

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How long does AI need to be used, and how much demand needs to be sustained, for it to stop being called a “buzzword”? I’m a little dubious that NVIDIA became literally the most highly-valued company on Earth off the back of a mere “buzzword.”

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Can I ask areal question? I’m not trying to be a dick or smart ass, I legit don’t get this. What is bullshit here? I read the article and it seems like a useful feature to me.

“this week, we will launch an opt-in experiment”

“those who have opted-in will have the option to access their preferred AI service from the Firefox sidebar”

Is this opt in only feature really terrible? Because as a user of ai, not switching tabs sounds like a nice new feature to me.

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I strongly believe that generative AI is catastrophically misused in the vast majority of its applications, so in my eyes, adding gpt-based AI to the browser is largely a wasted effort

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I highly doubt they have one team that switches between experiments and bug fixes, never doing two things at once. Not to mention that something ultimately being ripped out isn’t necessarily wasted effort. They could likely easily pivot virtually anything they put into this specific experiment into any number of other uses.

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I think it makes sense. I like ChatGPT and I appreciate having easy access to it. What I really wish is the option to use local models instead. I realize most people don’t have machines that can tokenize quickly enough but for those that do…

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Seconding this. Why not allow people to run llama3 or other open source models?

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From the post:

Whether it’s a local or a cloud-based model, if you want to use AI, we think you should have the freedom to use (or not use) the tools that best suit your needs

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From the post it seems like theyll ad support for self-hosted models before the feature leaves beta

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