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“Oh you’re an anarchist? Then solve literally one problem that doesn’t create ten other, worse problems. Seriously, just one. Please”

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imagine there is a evil capitalist who makes your fav social network unfree. and there is a anarchisticly organized fediverse that gives you a save haven from it.

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Lemmy is not anarchy. The fedivierse is not anarchy.

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Anarchism is not the absense of rules, it’s about free association, cooperation and avoiding unjust hierarchies.

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Well technically each user could have their own instance if they choose to do so. They’d be free to interact with who they choose to interact with and block who they wouldn’t want to interact with. They’d be free from any outside hierarchy. Many user choose not to do this, but that doesn’t mean the system is inherently hierarchical.

(I’m excluding the fact that not every user has the capital to host an instance)

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So, who’s in charge?

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Anarchy has a well defined meaning.

This is my biggest problem with your phrasing, and I know that it just boils down to semantics - and that feels like absurd reductionism, is that “anarchisticly organized” is essentially a matter/antimatter reaction of a phrase that leaves the reader with nothing of substance.

Now for something truly controversial:

Capitalism is the purest form of anarchy.

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“anarchisticly organized” is essentially a matter/antimatter reaction of a phrase

Mate… i have to wonder if you’ve read anything at all. In your life.

Probably the most common thing said among anarchists is “organise, organise!!” Anarchists are all about people organising.

capitalism is the purest form of anarchy

Controversial doesn’t mean stupid. Capitalism is antithetical to anarchy. It inevitably and irresistibly trends toward monopoly, no matter how you slice it.

It also cannot exist without a coercive state apparatus, and in absence of one, will make itself the state, essentially reinventing feudalism.

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“anarchy has a well defined meaning” it does, and if you had read anything about it before posting this you would know what it is.

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Okay, but thats literally the problem with authority. Any problem it can solve can also go unchecked in creating 10 more.

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Far more with authority than anarchy

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Easy

Inequality is caused by hierarchy

Remove hierarchy

Inequality is solved

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That’s like saying

Falling to your death is caused by gravity.

Remove gravity

Death solved.

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Not really, because gravity is a law of physics, while hierarchy is an arbitrary social construct. If you think it’s natural to have people above you, that might be your kink, but not mine.

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Brain dead take lmao you think anarchic monkeys in the jungle don’t have hierarchy?

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My dude

They are monkeys

We have a bit more intelligence and organisational skill than wild animals

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You obviously have not read Kropotkin’s Mutual aid.

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Look I’m not saying we have to switch to a total lack of hierarchy immediately. I just want us to start at the top and eat our way down and see how that affects things.

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(Researchers going over ancient Internet history): Wow there must have been some SERIOUS food crisis going on from 2000-20xx! There’s so much talk about cannibalism and guillotines!

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Have you seen what grocery stores are charging these days? Yeah, there’s a crisis.

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My plan would help reduce that grocery bill a little bit(e) at a time

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Just start eating at the top and reassess when everyone’s full.

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On Lemmy, it’s more like “oh you’re an anarchist? You obviously haven’t read enough Lennin”

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I’m entering my years as a senior anarchist, and I always find it funny when some in their 20’s who got their entire personality from a podcast tells me to read to read On Authority or State and Revolution or something. My dude, I actually read people I disagree with, do you? Because only someone that doesn’t would think those are profound criticisms.

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some in their 20’s who got their entire personality from a podcast

You’re just creating this strawman because you disagree with the other side that is recommending you read about their beliefs, despite claiming that you read people you disagree with

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I’ve read both those, that’s the point.

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People keep saying that about lemmy, but I haven’t seen it. Maybe it is your filter bubble?

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To be fair, your instance has defederated from the 2 large tankie instances.

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Same here, these people constantly complaining about “tankies” seem to vastly outnumber the alleged tankies in my experience

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I haven’t seen a single one personally

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Pretty sure eating billionaires and pumping their Ill gotten gains into systems that help humanity would fix most issues. Kill off any greedy fucks

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Not really anarchy is it?

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Absolutely not lol.

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It doesn’t have to solve every problem, but it does have to result in a better world than we have now, which it won’t.

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