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$100k is nothing to these people. It’s like your or I paying $0.25 a day. They see it as the cost of doing business.

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Let’s just double the amount of ads in Norway to cover the loss.

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Norway has a population of 5-6 mil. I don’t think there’s enough of them to generate 100k/day, is there? Or maybe that’s worth it, what do I know? They’re not gonna get fined that much anyway

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it’s probably worth it as a show of power to them

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Based on https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/120114/how-does-facebook-fb-make-money.asp 39$/user/year for Facebook & Messenger alone. In a country of 5-6M people, let’s say 5.5M, with 70% of the population being users ( from: https://www.statista.com/statistics/584917/facebook-users-in-norway-by-age-group/ ), that gives ~3.85M users * 39$ = 150.15M$/year, 12.5M$/month, or 417k$/day. Norway is a rich country, so one should assume a Norway user’s revenue is higher than the 39$ average.

So, 100k$/day is certainly a decent figure for Norway’s operations, meaning a local Facebook senior manager must be in panic right now. But Would that local senior manager have any power to change anything given Norway is such a small market but yielding would set a precedent for all other EU members? That’s what is at stake!

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Damn, thanks for the reply. That was definitely not what I was expecting. But now that I read it… it makes total sense

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Is there a /c/theydidthemath anywhere? Good work.

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Damn, thanks for the reply. That was definitely not what I was expecting. But now that I read it… it makes total sense

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It should be a number “per user” “per day” not just a “per day”. Make it really hurt based on how much it’s being done.

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Or just make a cost per day that is punitive.

If I did something outright evil and criminal, and my only punishment was a $0.25 fine, I would feel motivated to keep doing it again.

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My point is that the costs shouldn’t be the same if you do something evil to one user, vs a million. If it were, it’s just a loss leader until I can make more than I lose.

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I mean, any money flowing from them to nation is good at the end of the day.

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Right, but it’s not really about getting money for their country. Or at least it shouldn’t be.

It’s about punishing corporations for not following their laws/regulations, and making the consequences onerous enough to dissuade them and others from doing it again.

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That’s peanuts for a company that size. That’s the cost of doing business.

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Facebook somehow makes about $18 per person on the planet in ad revenue.

Norway is 5 million people or $90 million/year all else being equal.

$100k/day is $36.5 million/year.

So, it’s less than it should be by probably a factor of 4-5, but still not so small they won’t feel it

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This is what you might call a “public-private partnership”.

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That’s why if a fine does not exceed the benefit the company gained from it, it’s not a deterrent but a cost of business.

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The way I read it, the fine is capped to $1M NOK.

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There’s Norway we’re paying that, ha ha. More zingers like that over on Threads!

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So, about .000000001 of what they make a day?

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They make $10,000,000,000,000 a day? Must be a hell of a business model.

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Selling personal data sure is profitable.

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How many people do you guys know who have Signal installed who also use Facebook / Insta? Feel like these are separate circles in a venn diagram.

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Exactly.

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That’s me. I’m not abandoning friends who are solely reachable on FB/Insta, but I’ll also talk on signal when possible

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Most of the family members I’ve gotten to use signal still use FB and insta

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Like two maybe? And even then only kinda sorta. One almost never uses FB, the other almost never uses Signal

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