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I’ve noticed a substantial decrease in the “Hurr durr Genocide Joe, I’m taking the moral high ground by not voting!” comments since the debate, with a stark uptick in “Biden is unfit, so I’m not voting”. It’s almost like… some sort of group or organization were intentionally manipulating the public commentary based on carefully selected and salient talking points to convince American voters to not turn out for Biden on election day… Perhaps an entity with something to gain from having Trump be re-elected? A certain plutocratic state currently mired in a years-long losing war against a much smaller and weaker foe, maybe?

Like seriously, I’ve barely heard a peep about Gaza in the past two weeks. It’s bizarre. I’m sure there are still people who care about that issue, but the vast majority of the most vocal anti-Israel users on Lemmy went silent right after Biden bombed that debate.

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yeeeeuuup. the guy who replied with actual facts during the debate is called unfit while the idiot who spewed lies or just rambled is somehow better. just like the guy who is trying to reign in bibi is genocide but trump somehow would save Gaza.

It’s so fucking stupid.

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How come the NYT published that gunk? I thought they had a reputation to care about

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I wasn’t going to vote but you convinced me that there is an agenda to get me to not vote so now I’m going to vote for trump.

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Not really, but still, why is the assumption that not voting means a vote is lost for democrats?

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Mostly because the people that don’t feel represented are overwhelmingly on the left.

You won’t find many right-wing people dissatisfied with the current choices, if they’re extremists they’d vote Trump and if they aren’t they’re probably fine with Biden. The only reason I can think of for a potential Republican voter not going is that they think Trump will win anyway and they don’t need their vote.

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So if democrats need those votes from the left, why don’t they try appealing to those voters?

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Because Democrats in the US are right-wing too. And they know as long as Republicans keep pushing literal comic book villains, leftists are forced to vote for them. They don’t have to try harder, because they know any leftist that actually knows how the system works will vote for them even if they just do the bare minimum.

The only way for that to change is to keep voting for the lesser evil, because once Republicans lose enough terms in a row they’ll have to shift more towards the center, and at that point Dems will be forced to actually go left because “we’re not threatening democracy” won’t be enough anymore to get elected.

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I hate that I know the US is having an election because all leftist spaces fill up with “I’m so principled that I’m not voting for the Democrats”.

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I am hoping most of them are bots.

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I didn’t get the news that Musk had bought the NYT.

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