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I know how editorial sections work, but you’d think they’d at least check for bald-faced lies. Not out of a sense of decency, but self-interest.

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14 points

I see you’re not familiar with our media

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13 points

Didn’t the NYT mean something at one point?

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10 points

I mean, they hired a Hitler sympathizer in the 1930s who praised Goebbels, so one could argue they have always been shitty. I’d say it’s time to start telling people they (NYT) are shit and hope they lose money.

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It did but then Meredith Levien took control of the business and added a hard authoritarian edge to the paper which is showing in all the right wing religious nonsense it has been spewing of late.

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It’s fitting that the liberal paper of record supported every single war the US has been in, opposed MLK when he was marching, promoted the whole “crack babies pre-disposed to crime” horseshit in the 90s, but evolved to take the correct side that <insert war> was bad, MLK was good (but civil rights is over, these new guys need to shut up), etc 5 years after it mattered.

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Preface: I am hard-left neutralist. I believe in equality and fairness, but there are universal rights like housing, food, water, education, etc. Closest ideological icon I respect would be Howard Zinn. So…

NYT stands for something, but not what everyone thinks it does. Like NPR, it has a masked bias that is, on its face, disingenuous. NYT hauls the DNC and corporate interest lines. (tows the line, not “toes the line”).

The latter, NPR, are ultra Liberal but espoused neutrality. Bullshit. NYT spouts liberal agenda but sows chaos in their supposed ranks.

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9 points

Pretty sure someone did a deep digging of info and every news outlet of consequence is at least headed by a gop donor.

Not equating correlation with causation here…let’s just say “I’m just asking questions!”

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I don’t know if the tweet is wrong or did NYT change the title but it’s now called “Why I won’t vote”. I don’t know what it contains because I’m not clicking on it to give that dickhead clicks.

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12 points

Why does he look like a cartoon British man

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I was thinking a few strokes of a razor away from looking like a certain fascist.

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12 points

And I think he knows, and that’s it’s on purpose

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7 points

Oh, I 100% agree with you on that.

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2 points

Why does his mustache look like armpit hair?

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7 points

Seriously. That can’t be coincidence. Look at that idiotic hair.

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1 point

I just got creepy pedo vibes.

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4 points

I support right-wingers not voting. Like they kept threatening when they were insisting (not that they aren’t still insisisting) that the 2020 election was stolen.

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Oh no he definitionally votes. He just doesn’t want you to vote.

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I’m going to vote.

I can’t pretend it matters much though. No matter which lever you pull we’re getting a cognitively-impaired sock puppet.

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Yeah but one is trying to control women’s bodies and erase LGBT people and the other isn’t, so maybe think of your neighbors when you pull the lever in defense of those who don’t have the privilege of being able to lay low when shit goes south.

Or if you’re among the above vote in your own interests lol

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the other isn’t

LOL

I saw how the Democrats responded to the Roe leak. They fundraised.

That is it.

$80,000,000 was the cost of your bodily autonomy, so at this point, I’m not really able to pretend that Biden’s going to stand, drooling over the Resolute Desk, and do anything meaningful to stop the spread of fascism.

Idaho got away with criminalizing abortion, so now, 2/3 of the states will follow within the next year. You can bank on it.

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5 points

“Yeah may as well go vote Trump then”? Is that the response you want?

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Well it does matter though.

The way I see our choices is, one old man, the blue donkey, has the goal of continuing to support the status quo, for better and worse. He also has that baffling willful ignorance about the increasingly rabid violent behavior of the other guy’s colleagues and voters, and how he definitely needs to fucking do something. But at least he hires people who are less old and more mentally secure than himself, since a president’s cabinet and advisors are vital to the administration’s function, and tend to fill in where they fall short.

But the other old man, the red elephant, he has the very well-published goal of severely lowering the quality of life for all us citizens besides wealthy white men, in some cases removing the right for some demographics to live at all (trans people, for one). The plan also includes smash-and-grabbing the federal government and raiding its wealth; this is all that Project 2025 thing that people need to talk more frequently about. He also hires unqualified criminals for his cabinets, and is a convicted criminal himself; just not in the eyes of his dogmatic culty voters, or in the majority opinion of the unelected for-life supreme court that he had previously rigged in his favor. And he is known to be in the pocket of a sadistic oligarchic foreign government for whom the cold war never actually ended.

Sure, long term this country won’t last, but in the short term, this is the last shot at renewing our fragile democracy subscription while we still can. If we lose it completely with this looming fascism takeover, it will require the spilled blood of tens of millions of lives and more, to ever get it back, and at the minimum it will come with the severe decline of quality of life for all US citizens, besides wealthy white men, and the destruction of decades of history and culture that we currently take for granted. Think a US version of China’s great firewall, book burnings, server wipings, cops raiding your home and smashing up all your hard drives.

And that’s only if this country could even be taken back, considering, you know, the USA has the most guns and nukes of anyone, and I don’t see an average Joe who happened to already own an assault rifle being successful in employing the second amendment on a missile drone swarm. Probably the best case scenario would be Balkanization, and being lucky enough to end up in a good region of the former-US, and just getting bombed over the border back and forth occasionally, and hoping everybody continues playing nice with the nukes. Because the only alternative in an unshattered fascist US at that point would be waiting for a natural decline. But as we’ve seen with the likes of North Korea, that process could end up taking so long that none of us here will live to see it, just the kids of our kids and on.

I’m never voting for the crazy felon cult guy who officially wants me dead, among so many other things. I don’t think that any combination of our laws or legal system should have ever allowed him to return to the polls for this election, or done anything besides end up in a cell or be executed as a high threat terrorist traitor. But it’s just how it ended up. But please don’t act like it doesn’t matter, and nobody should be keeping up with that bullshit propaganda bot lie that the outcomes will be the same either way. Sorry for the long incoherent rant, I barely even remember what your comment was, nor do I particularly want to scroll up to read it again, but nothing makes me more irritable and verbose than people giving into hopeless apathy.

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nothing makes me more irritable and verbose than people giving into hopeless apathy

LOL

Man, I wish I lived a life where voter apathy was my biggest problem. I am legitimately happy for you.

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6 points

It matters which Supreme Court nominees get appointed, it matters who’s potentially breaking ties in the senate, and it matters who gets appointed to direct departmental policy.

The president doesn’t do everything

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5 points

And either the effecting people behind the one or an all new set of criminals behind the other (because all the last ones went to jail)…thinking you are voting for a single person is such an ignorant take…

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The system doesn’t care if people don’t vote as long as two party system keeps going.

Only way to fight this is third party vote to deny the regime legitimacy

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FPTP voting systems and third parties will never coexist.

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The point is not to win for the third party and don’t even need to vote for the same third party.

The point is to protest the system until the two party system loses legitimacy and is reformed.

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Unfortunately it lost legitimacy already, and all that happened is fascists consolidated power. It will never be reformed into functioning by the people capable of wielding power within it.

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9 points

So destroy your democracy to make third parties viable in your democratic system?

There might be a flaw in this plan.

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8 points

How does voting for a dictatorship run by trump bring this change about? (If you don’t vote for one of the two, you voted for the winner, hate the system not the messenger)

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1 point

The could with ranked choice voting. But until that’s a thing, you gotta use your brain and assess whether or not your first choice has a shot and maybe go with another choice instead.

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7 points

Klaxon sound Wrong!!!

The way to fight this is by voting and participating locally. Third parties are getting elected and alternative voting methods already exist in a few locations around the U.S. you can help by voting in more systems like that and maintain the candidates and systems you like locally. If we could get more people like you to participate locally we could actually get something done.

You’re problem is you want to live at the end of history and unfortunately for you we’re forever in the middle of it. Local action is the most effective and relatively slow. Instead you want to enable the larger of the two fascists that will inevitably be elected and then throw up your hands when it doesn’t work, blame everyone else, and never take any effective action locally.

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My advice doesn’t prevent anyone from voting in their local elections… In fact the two can be used together for the more zealous types.

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9 points

Your advice only makes the world worse by enabling the worse fascists without the groundwork needed to make your protest vote meaningful.

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4 points

This is it. Big change takes time and the wheels move slowly. This isn’t some simple issue that doesn’t cost anyone power like abortion rights or gay marriage, it is a game changer and has to slowly come into being without scaring the old people running the show.

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