Here’s the part I like: Biden said “if they’re serious they ought to ‘announce for president, challenge me at the convention’ or rally behind him against Trump”.
He’s got a point. I thought the debate was a massive fuck-up, but deciding who to replace him with and then mounting a viable attempt at the replacement with that person makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than just leaning into GOP talking points about how Biden’s fuckups, however bad, are definitely worse than Trump’s objectively much worse fuckups.
Replace Biden? Sure, let’s get fuckin busy, find a good replacement, and if doesn’t work, get behind Biden or whoever the nominee is. I still think Jon Stewart is the way to do it, but that is probably a non starter of an idea. Kamala Harris is the highest polling option and realistic. Be aware that everyone who was super panicked about Biden’s unsuitability will instantly pivot to panicking with concern-trolling about Kamala’s unsuitability, and if you fall for it right away again and start trying to replace her, I will not have a lot of respect for you or your intelligence or pattern recognition abilities.
Keep Biden? Sure, that sounds good too. Let’s get fuckin busy, and start rallying people to help him beat the end of the world in November.
Keep running in circles flapping our hands in the air about how something must be done because we’re definitely going to lose in November, without offering any good alternate strategy or way to get it done? That is the option that seems unlikely to cause anything good to happen. It is, however, what a lot of the Republican aligned media seems very very committed to encouraging the Democrats to do, and for some mentally challenged reason it seems like it’s winning over quite a lot of them.
Jon Stewart has said multiple times that he feels he can do more good outside of the political system doing what he does, than inside it being stymied at every turn.
As much as I like John Stewart, I think one of the big issues with Trump was that he and his administration were totally unqualified for their jobs. Let’s not stoop to their level and put up someone who has never held public office.
If we managed to get through a Trump term, with him being actively malicious and looking to do as much damage as possible, it proves exactly the fucking opposite.
Good intentions and a willingness to listen to knowledgeable advisors (but not simply follow them, genuinely listening to their explanations and then making a decision) is enough to be a good president.
Qualifications, like with most jobs that require all sorts of degrees and high requirements, are bullshit.
Don’t talk too loudly about Democrats increasing funding for cops, it helps Trump!
Don’t talk too loudly about Biden bankrolling a genocide, it helps Trump!
Don’t talk too loudly about the man y’all say will protect us from Trump being too incapacitated to protect us from Trump, it helps Trump!
It is crazy to try to paint this as drama when you bring up any issues before things get bad, folks will just shout you down anyway. I’ve seen many liberals say they would vote for Biden’s corpse, so what difference does it make if it is someone else with (D) next to their name? You might as well go down swinging than on your knees.
Biden is just another arrogant, out of touch, privileged elite with no understanding of what the majority of Americans experience day to day.
His hubris was on full display in Friday’s interview, the stakes are clearly not the same for him. He has enough wealth and power to weather this fascist storm, unfortunately most of us do not.
If Trump gets elected, I’m pretty sure Biden’s going to get a kangaroo court trial on some garbage charge and be sent to prison.
Worst case scenario Biden has the resources/connections to evacuate to somewhere safe and luxurious. The rest of us are stuck dealing with christofascist militias. The wealthy will continue living in opulence.
Bro, a 25 year old who happened to get a job in tech 5 years ago is a millionaire. Baseline retirement savings is a couple million. Pretty much any upper-middle-class professional career (doctor, lawyer, finance) is going to net you a few million within several years.
It’s not the thing you think it is. The truly wealthy are pulling in 1,000x to 100,000x that number.
He really isn’t wealthy, did grow up in a working-class environment, and certainly is not a trust-fund baby, billionaire, or media celebrity. Kind of hilarious assertion considering the competition.
What candidate would you like to see replace Biden?
(weird how 15-20 upvotes is the baseline for these kind of comments.)
I don’t think you understand how money works. You literally just described a trust fund baby because nobody is making a couple million dollars just because they got an advanced degree. Doctors that make the big bucks have to go through 12 years of schooling. And then they’re paying that back for a decade before they get to enjoy their income. So yeah at the age of 40, assuming they were successful in their residency, assuming they got a good hospital job, then they get to spend another 5-10 years saving for retirement.
You can’t just look at the high end of a career and assume you walk into that kind of money. That’s not how it works unless you have the high level connections a trust fund baby would have.
Don’t talk too loudly about Democrats increasing funding for cops, it helps Trump!
Don’t talk too loudly about Biden bankrolling a genocide, it helps Trump!
That’s because most Americans like both Israel and cops. The ones who don’t lack the numbers to be worth courting.
And, yes, it does suck to be stuck in a country with people like that, especially when they refuse to listen to reason and hold all the cards.
Welcome to America.
The Democratic Party cannot fail us.
It is only us who can fail the Democratic Party.
Because we’re all relying on historical context. No previous-loser has ever won against the person who beat them in the history of presidential elections.
Democrats funding for cops actually helps democrats reach centrists and independent voters.
Nobody actually gives a shit about Israel and Palestine. People bringing this up are feigning concern.
Nobody has ever said Biden will ‘protect us from Trump’. Not voting for Trump is what protects us from Trump. Telling people to stick it to the man and vote for someone else is harmful, because it splits the vote.
Nobody actually gives a shit about Israel and Palestine. People bringing this up are feigning concern.
What the fuck are you going on about? Just because you’re a psychopath who doesn’t give a shit about other people doesn’t mean we all are.
I cannot claim to know OP’s mind, but IMHO, I think those that are performatively wringing their hands and clutching their pearls over the situation in Israel right now are either a bit deluded or just out to delude others, IF they are acting like having donnie instead of Biden would make that situation in any way better. And if they are telling people to vote third party or stay home to lodge a stupid protest against The Man, they are only helping donnie. Which again, will result in things going from very, very bad to far far worse.
. No previous-loser has ever won against the person who beat them in the history of presidential elections.
Biden’s current approval rating is 34%…
What’s the last president with numbers that low he got a second term?
Like, I don’t think people understand how historically unpopular Biden is. 34% is fucking insane for being the president that followed trump, you can’t get a better set up than being compared to that shitheel.
Liberals are so self-assured that they occupy the majority position that they simply cannot fathom that number is accurate.
I honestly do not think there is any way to get through to those people. Everyone who disagrees is either not a real american democrat or have been duped by the fake media.
They will drive us clear over the edge of the cliff and blame us for giving them the wrong directions.
Historical context really doesn’t mean anything here. Trump isn’t the average republican guy. He has taken over the whole party with his ideology alone. Tons of people care about genocide. Not to mention people directly affected by it. Biden’s whole pitch was he can get stuff done and be a one-term President. None of that has happened. This moment requires boldness and conviction. Biden is not the man for that at all.
Betting all your chips on a man who is hanging by a thread is a risky gamble to protect whatever is left of this country.
Nobody has ever done anything until they did. You’re not really saying much there.
While we’re at it though, no previous president has ever won reelection with an approval rating below 48% either. Biden’s hasn’t polled that high in over a year and a half.
Well as long as he gives it his all between 5am and 8pm…
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Thats more than normal working hours. Only Boebert gives her all after 8pm
He’s the president. It’s not a fucking 9-5.
What an asinine way to justify his bed time.
I mean, if shit gets fucked up because the president is sleeping, I’d argue that some things that should have been delegated weren’t rather than it being a problem that the president sleeps. If he stayed up until 1am, what if something big happened at 2am?
The whole “what would Hillary do if she got a 3am phone call” thing was dumb. If there’s an attack, it should be military people determining the immediate course of action and the president weighing in for the longer term response. Presidents should handle strategic response, not tactical response.
I’ll still be voting for Biden even if he’s preserved as a head in a jar this fall. However, I wish it were not so, and I think far too many normies and the generally clueless (and pouty purity pony lefty dumbasses) are going to stay home, lodge a stupid “protest vote”, or vote outright for donnie if it’s Biden as the Democratic option.
Bleh.
All I’ve seen is people telling him to step down. I haven’t seen a concrete solution for what happens if he does. That’s why all of this dick waving is doing nothing but hurting his chances. All you “Dems” are just regurgitating conservative talking points and doing their propaganda for them. Instead of talking about how he stumbled, talk about how Trump did nothing but lie, rape, and is a convicted felon. His showing was far worse than Biden, yet here his side is attacking him and ignoring Trump. The option to switch candidates is long gone. It’s fine to be critical of Biden, but if all you are is critical, then you are actively hurting his chances of reelection.
It’s mind numbing how many of you are just out there actively attacking the guy that will be the candidate in November, whether you like it or not. Reality sucks sometimes, and you get stuck with a giant douche and a turd sandwich, but that’s just how it is. An awful lot of faces for leopards out there.
Because there isn’t one. Everyone asking him to step down with no clear alternative is either stupid or acting in bad faith. The longer this BS goes on the more likely it is to turn off undecided voters regardless of the replacement.
It’s 1968 all over again. I’m a millennial and was clearly not alive for that. But I’ve read enough about elections and talked with my parents about how Nixon won. The DNC infighting and 3rd party spoilers gave us Nixon. People are begging to do that again and going to get us Trump.
There is no conservative talking points. Liberal media has brainwashed Dems to the point they won’t accept Biden is a senile joke when everyone watching a 30 second clip of the debate can observe it for themselves.
And after months of liberal media gaslighting about how Biden is totally fine even they now have to admit he’s a senile geriatric. But since they told everyone that’s deepfake propaganda libs won’t believe their eyes and ears anymore.
Biden can still be swapped but Dems are already in Blue MAGA mode. It’s hillarious. Biden simps will be the reason Trump wins.
I suppose if you ignore almost everything else over the past 3 years and only look at the debate, you could make an argument that he’s not mentally cognizant. Or you could look at his track record and all of the stuff that his admin has accomplished after the disaster that was the trump regime.
There’s no time to make a swap. If he stepped down immediately, there wouldn’t be a formal plan in place for days or weeks. After that, the execution of said plan will take months. There’s not time, that ship sailed.
The last 4 years aren’t a great indicator of the next 4, not that theyve done a great job communicating over the former. Mental decline from dementia can be rapid and aggressive once it starts and the stress of the office is only going to make that worse.
If you ignore his massive gaffe’s and the media’s lies about it over the past year you could make an argument nobody saw this coming. Instead everyone calling it out got accused of clipping Biden out of context and other smear attacks from liberal media.
The 2020 Democratic primaries ended in August. There’s more than enough time to swap Biden out. I can’t even begin to understand this line of reasoning that it’s already too late.
