16 points

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A court in south-west Spain has sentenced 15 schoolchildren to a year’s probation for creating and spreading AI-generated images of their female peers in a case that prompted a debate on the harmful and abusive uses of deepfake technology.

Police began investigating the matter last year after parents in the Extremaduran town of Almendralejo reported that faked naked pictures of their daughters were being circulated on WhatsApp groups.

Each of the defendants was handed a year’s probation and ordered to attend classes on gender and equality awareness, and on the “responsible use of technology”.

Under Spanish law minors under 14 cannot be charged but their cases are sent to child protection services, which can force them to take part in rehabilitation courses.

In an interview with the Guardian five months ago, the mother of one of the victims recalled her shock and disbelief when her daughter showed her one of the images.

“Beyond this particular trial, these facts should make us reflect on the need to educate people about equality between men and women,” the association told the online newspaper ElDiario.es.


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3 points

What does this have to do with the equality of men and women? Girls are more at risk of this kind of abuse? That’s a good point, but it’s not brought up here. This parent is trying to make something political that is simply not. Not that gender equality should be political in the first place.

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-1 points

There’s a good chance that these behaviors originated from misogyny/objectifying women.

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4 points

Rather than just the typical horniness that most teenage boys have?

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45 points

I read the headline and said oh come on. One paragraph in and that turned to what in the absolute fuck.

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117 points

Are you surprised by teenage boys making fake nudes of girls in their school? I’m surprised by how few of these cases have made the news.

I don’t think there’s any way to put this cat back in the bag. We should probably work on teaching boys not to be horrible.

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30 points

There are always two paths to take - take away all of humanity’s tools or aggressively police people who abuse them. No matter the tool (AI, computers, guns, cars, hydraulic presses) there will be somebody who abuses it, and for society to function properly we have to do something about the delinquent minority of society.

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16 points

No matter the tool (AI, computers, guns, cars, hydraulic presses) there will be somebody who abuses it,

Hydraulic press channel guy offended you somehow? I’m missing something here.

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6 points

We could also do a better job of teaching people from childhood not to be assholes.

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1 point

Guns do not belong in the list. Guns are weapons, not tools. Don’t bother posting some random edge case that accounts for approximately 0.000001% of use. This is a basic category error.

Governments should make rules banning and/or regulating weapons.

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36 points

I’m not sure you can teach boys not to be horny teenagers 😜

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63 points

Being horny is one thing, sharing this stuff another. If whoever did the fake would’ve kept it to themselves, then nobody would’ve even known. The headline still is ass and typical “AI” hysteria though.

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20 points

We do eventually grow up at least

… into horny men

… but hopefully with a little more empathy and propriety.

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59 points

Having been a teenage boy myself, I wouldn’t dream of trying.

But I knew it wasn’t OK to climb a tree with binoculars to try to catch a glimpse of the girl next door changing clothes, and I knew it wasn’t OK to touch people without their consent. I knew people who did things like that were peeping toms and rapists. I believed peeping toms and rapists would be socially ostracized and legally punished more harshly than they often are in reality.

Making and sharing deepfakes of real people without their consent belongs on the same spectrum.

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-4 points

Teenagers are literally retarded. Like their reasoning centers are not developed and they physically cannot think. There’s no way to teach that

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4 points
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No, they’re not fully developed, but they distinguish actions morally speaking (even older children do) and they can choose to do better.

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1 point

It’s like these x-ray apps that obviously didn’t work but promoted to see all the women naked. Somehow that was very cool and no one cared. Suddenly there is something that kinda works and everyone is shocked.

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78 points

“Many girls were completely terrified and had tremendous anxiety attacks because they were suffering this in silence,” she told Reuters at the time. “They felt bad and were afraid to tell and be blamed for it.”

WTF?!

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42 points

Psychology 101.

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55 points

Spain is a pretty Catholic country, and even if religious attendance is dropping off, the ingrained beliefs can still remain. Madonna/Whore dichotomy still is very prevalent in certain parts of society there.

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Spain is a pretty Catholic country

Hasn’t been in decades. No one in Spain gives a flying fuck about religion. Even the ones that go on processions and whatnot only do it because it’s traditional, and because they like dressing up and wearing silly hats.

The kids didn’t tell because they’re kids. They thought they’d be blamed for it because kids get blamed for everything, and because they know their parents don’t understand how generative “AI” works and would believe they were actually taking naked pictures and circulating them themselves.

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pretty Catholic

I don’t know what led you to believe that, but just look at wikipedia, only 56% of the population is catholic, 37.5% being non practising (and, in my experience as a spaniard, agnostic) and 16% actually practising.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain

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You read the first 6 words of my comment and just ignored the rest of it. Tell me why Holy Week is one of the biggest events in Spain even though “only” half the population is Catholic.

The whole point I was making was that even if people identify as atheists, agnostics, or non-practicing, the remnants of the Catholic mindset and culture remain, including the misogyny inherent to most organized religions.

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36 points

Welcome to Christianity.

If a man sexually exploits a woman, it’s the woman’s fault for leading him astray.

This is how women are treated in deeply Christian communities.

Those women fear stepping forward to report assault or abuse because there are many in their community that will condemn them for it.

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18 points

Welcome to religion at large

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-7 points

“Absolutely no way to prevent this”, says internet full of banners offering to “Undress your classmates now!”

“Tools are just tools, and there’s no sense in restricting access to undress_that_ap_chemistry_hottie.exe because it wouldn’t prevent even a single case of abuse and would also destroy every legitimate use of any computer anywhere”, said user deepfake-yiff69@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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It’s possible I just haven’t come across those types of comments you’re making fun of, but I usually just see people making the case that we don’t need new, possibly overreaching, legislation to handle these situations. They want to avoid a disingenuous “think of the children” kind of situation.

a youth court in the city of Badajoz said it had convicted the minors of 20 counts of creating child abuse images and 20 counts of offences against their victims’ moral integrity

I’m not familiar with their legal system but I would be willing to bet the crimes they’ve committed were already illegal under existing laws.

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6 points

Well you certainly managed to get attention to your comment

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-9 points

Under Spanish law minors under 14 cannot be charged

What about the parents?

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31 points

I think parents under 14 also cannot be charged.

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4 points

Ahh the old reddit Lemmy switcharoo

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