Installing OS, 10 years ago:

Windows: click a couple of buttons enter username and password

Linux: Terminal hacking, downloading shell scripts from github

Installing OS today:

Linux: click a couple of buttons, enter username and password

Windows: Terminal hacking, downloading shell scripts from github.

Link to video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qKRmYW1D0S0

Idk, installing Linux was pretty easy 10 years ago too. Can’t comment about anything earlier than that though.

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47 points

There were installers like today even ~20 years ago.

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8 points

I remember the Slackware dozens of floppies install, things have gotten stupidly easy with time

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That was the case even 19 years back. Ubuntu nailed it back then. You could install it without knowing anything about your computer. Before that, there were text based UIs which required deep understanding and lots of decisions.

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167 points

They are probably like me, thinking that the year 2000 was 10 years ago.

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thinking that the year 2000 was 10 years ago.

This is patently absurd, 10 years ago was 1994.

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10 points

Hi everyone, I’m not even a year old!

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And I don’t think GitHub existed in 2000. Probably even git.

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5 points

Git was released in ‘05, GitHub ‘08.

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10 points

Yeah, it was SourceForge and SVN.

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Even 20 years ago Linux was easier to install then Windows.

Last time I recall Linux being tricky was like late 90s.

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I once tried to install Linux around then, not long after ISA cards with Plug n Play became a thing.

Linux: So now to even pretend to get the card to work you have to download and run a tool to generate a config file to feed to another tool so you can then install the driver and get basic functionality from the card (which is all that’s available on Linux). Except the first tool doesn’t generate a working config file - it generates a file containing every possible configuration your hardware supports hypothetically having and requires you to find and uncomment the one you want to actually use. Requiring you to manually configure the card and thus kinda defeating the point of Plug n Play (though I guess that configuration was in software, not by setting jumpers).

Same card in Windows at the time: Install card, boot Windows. Card is automatically identified and given a valid configuration, built in drivers provide basic functionality. Can download software from manufacturer for more advanced functionality.

That soured me on Linux for a long time. Might try it again sometime soon just to see what it’s like if nothing else. ProtonDB doesn’t have the most positive things to say about my Steam collection, and I imagine odds are worse for stuff not available on Steam.

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ProtonDB doesn’t have the most positive things to say about my Steam collection, and I imagine odds are worse for stuff not available on Steam.

If you ask around or search, you can get answers easily. You can install games from Epic, Ubisoft etc. using other Linux applications.

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Get yourself an old lenovo laptop t440p/t480. You’re missing out.

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Yeah, all my Linux installs after about 2003 were liveCDs. I used to carry my Gentoo CD around as my diagnostic tools for a while helping people fix their windows machines (or just backing up everything off it before reformatting).

I think Knoppix was the first live CD I used. It was mind blowing. Now you can just carry around a whole personally configured system on a USB stick. Pretty cool.

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And then you find ventoy…

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Giving you, if you were lucky, VESA graphics and maybe a mouse pointer because XFree86 somehow insisted on being told whether you have a PS/2 or USB mouse. 3d acceleration only with nvidia and that required manual installation because nvidia never provided anything but blobs. IIRC ATI drivers were simply non-existent (didn’t have an ATI card back then), that only changed when AMD bought them. Whippensnappers won’t believe it but once upon the time, nvidia was actually the company to go with when running linux. And Epic didn’t hate Linux yet, UT2004 came with linux binaries on the dvd.

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20 years ago was still xorg.conf times

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Have you met Anaconda?

But no, you’re right…

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It hasn’t change since mid-2000s if you only talk about the installation process itself. Usually you would have at least some piece of hardware that wouldn’t work out of box and it used to be a lot of work until getting everything in place

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NDISWrapper used to be the worst.

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Nvidia was also more painful than now.

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I had forgotten about that and now I am sad that I’ve been reminded.

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Winmodems

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I installed redhat on my machine in the beginning of 2000’s when I was 13 or so and it was pretty easy. English is not even my first language.

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I had a pretty trivial time of it almost 20 years ago.

Fuck I’m old.

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You don’t download shell scripts from github for windows. You download batch scripts and exes from random file hosting sites, and they don’t even fix your problem.

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15 points

They probably talk about the unlocker script.

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The post is describing the scripts to disable telemetry, OneDrive, ads, etc.

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But the thread not.

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You’ll be lucky if it’s even hosted on random hosting sites and not some discord channel.

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iTs iN tHe PiNnEd cOmMeNtS bRo

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Oh how I hate Discord.

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CMD is a shell, homes.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_(computing)

tldr: batch is a scripting language, which interacts with the windows shell, so in that way it is a shell script.

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some random .exe from mediafire to install drivers

or one of those shady ones with tons of ads and slow ass downloads.

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Talking here about regular x64 OS install not ARM though, have not played with that myself.

Not really, it is usually PowerShell scripts from trusted blogs or in case of local account creation, you run a batch file that is built in installer (oobe\bypassnro) that adds a single registry value. Not sure I would call this hacking. Then again I don’t think Linux 10 years again had problems with account creation as well.

Would be nicer if you could create local account out of the box? Sure. Do some prefer MS account? Also true.

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I didn’t use a terminal to install Linux 20 years ago…

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25 years sounds about right

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people here seem to think 20 years ago was the 90s…

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Maybe Linux is 10 years ahead. Let’s give our windows users some insight about their future:

Don’t remove the French language pack with sudo!

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This took me a minute to figure out 😝

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I don’t get it.

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rm -fr /

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sudo rm -fr /

Add no-preserve-root if you really want to make sure it’s gone! /j

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If you have a 64 bit computer, you gotta delete system32.

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But what if I hate the fr*nch?

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Install MacOS X: get a bopping song from Röyksopp

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🎶you know we’re happy up here🎵

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