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We should be lauding Elon Musk for dispelling the notion that the wealthy have any inherent superiority to anyone else. He keeps proving it over and over and over.

Thank you Elon, for being yourself and proving, once and for all, that anyone can be a billionaire, all you have to do is benefit from the exploitation of apartheid.

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Yep, Gates era billionaires had the good sense to maintain a vaneer of selfless philanthropic personality where each interaction with public was carefully crafted by PR experts. So the general public didn’t know who they really were as actual people.

But Musk landed on the scene and showed the world that billionaires are as stupid as—if not more because they are out of touch with the reality—as the regular person.

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73 points

Gates after his PR rehab, that is. Society seems to be forgetting just how universally hated that guy was.

After the antitrust deposition where he came across as petty, arrogant, contemptuous — and clearly guilty — he disappeared for a while and returned with perhaps the greatest PR transformation of all time.

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To be fair that’s just the nature of a deposition. Because it’s the other side grilling the defendant for hours trying to bait that person to make a slip up. You saw the same thing in the deposition tapes of Lil Wayne for example where they constantly asked him stupid questions until he got annoyed.

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The hilarious part is, he absolutely had the same PR team that the Gates and Jobs and Buffetts had.

And at some point in the Trump presidency, he just straight up threw them to the curb. Fired the lot of them, or at least stopped listening to a word of advice they gave. And he just started going on rants, tangents, and showing who he really was for all the world to see.

Nobody will ever know for sure, but best guess is his addiction to Twitter drove his need to be acknowledged and accepted by the general populace. He was a rockstar, and he got off on that feeling.

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13 points

Wait what? How is Gates seen positively? Microsoft was the worst tech company under him and did so much awful stuff

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Why do you think I used words like “veneer” and “carefully crafted PR”?

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Most people know 2 things about Bill Gates - he’s rich, and he donates a lot of money. They don’t think about it any more than that, and they certainly aren’t going to research anything about it, so they consider him “one of the good ones”

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God that is so much not what Gates is about and has ever been about. Even the veneer isn’t selfless, I don’t mean people are fooled I mean they don’t even bother looking at the top level. Because even the pr doesn’t hide that it’s all about profit and handouts to corporations.

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194 points

This reminds me of that guy who declared he wouldn’t be listening to Rage Against the Machine anymore because Tom Morello had become too political 😂😂😂

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How about when a republican Tweeted:

"Bummed to learn that @deesnider, the man with the perfect song written decades ago about the attack on traditional, conservative American values… “We’re Not Gonna Take It” is riding the train in the wrong direction. How could it be that he sang for us but now fights for them?

And Dee Snider:

You think i wrote a song in support of “traditional American values”? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You funny.

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the man with the perfect song written decades ago about the attack on traditional, conservative American values

Ah yes, the famously conservative hair metal singer whose stage getup was just shy of a drag performers. How could one forget this pinnacle of conservative values.

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66 points

I’ve seen drag performers with less makeup than Dee Snyder. He was approaching “circus clown” in that song’s video.

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That’s the funny part, and why he destroyed tipper gore’s dumb parental advisory witch hunt; He doesn’t drink or smoke, and is a family man. He’s much closer to conservative family values than people expect. Here he is recounting that time he made a fool of Congress

You should also watch his full congress speech if you have time

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28 points

They saw it was from Twisted Sister and probably thought they were into incest like them?

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74 points

My favorite response the Morello tweet got was “what ‘Machine’ did you think he was raging against? The dishwasher?” Lol

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39 points

Nah, definitely was a printer.

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“Ms. Gore claimed that one of my songs, ‘Under the Blade,’ had lyrics encouraging sadomasochism, bondage and rape. The lyrics she quoted have absolutely nothing to do with these topics. On the contrary, the words in question are about surgery and the fear that it instills in people. … I can say categorically that the only sadomasochism, bondage and rape in this song is in the mind of Ms. Gore.”

-Dee Snider at the PMRC Congressional hearings.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dee-snider-on-pmrc-hearing-i-was-a-public-enemy-71205/

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Art is subjective, it’s funny how often it says more about the viewer than the person who made it.

Heck I always intrepreted the song Dream Thieves by Sonata Artica to be about betrayal at the hands of an oppressive authority figure…

It’s actually about music piracy, how it negatively effected the band’s income, with the implication that a fan who pirates music is disloyal as a true fan would want to contribute to the livelihood of a musician they like…

I don’t really agree with the intended message and I still like the song because of MY interpretation, but damn that does make the line “Download new lies on your scythe” make more sense in context

Personally I feel like “Piracy is always morally correct” and “Support Indie Creators whenever possible.” are not contradictory viewpoints. (Admittedly the song was written when digital media was a new concept)

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26 points

The most stereotypical drag band aren’t conservative? What a shocker

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15 points

Did they not see the music video for that song where a rebellious kid using the power of rock rebels against his authoritarian father? Turning into the effeminate-looking singer of the song in the process, a song by a band named twisted SISTER? Said father who is heavily implied to be a former US Marine?

Yeah that’s about as “Traditional American Values” and “Pro-Conservative” as a black lesbian burning down a Chic-Fila-A on June 1st with a molotov cocktail made from a bottle of Bud Light (It’s not very Left Wing, but the brand triggers the fuck out of Righties) while making out with her transgender undocumented immigrant girlfriend, who had a perfect 15 inch girl-cock boner the whole time, because she is non-op and does not desire Bottom Surgery nor feel she should get a procedure that would be more effective on someone who actually does have dysphoria down there… She does however hope to have implants some day, and will look into it after gaining citizenship via marrying her black lesbian lover… However said Black Lesbian Lover gets SSI on account of being epileptic and cannot marry anyone without it harshly affecting her benefits and jeopardize her already vicarous living situation, so the wedding is off until they can find a lawyer to show them the right loopholes.

Oh dear God help me this is becoming a short story…

(Not a threat or call to arms, please do not burn down any establishments chicken or otherwise, voting for Biden will be enough, thank you)

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3 points

Get this in front of AMC to get picked up for 5 seasons with 3 or 4 good ones

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3 points

My wife’s theory was they only caught the first 20 seconds of the video and assumed the father was the protagonist.

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53 points

smh Tom Morello talks so much about politics these days you’d think he has a degree in it

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I love when I learn things from sarcasm.

He attended Harvard University and earned a Bachelor of Arts degree from the Committee on Degrees in Social Studies.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Morello

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36 points

This reminds me of people who accuse Star Trek of being too political also.

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25 points

I saw one a while back where people were getting upset that X-Men had become “woke” lol

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As a gamer, I am constantly rolling my eyes at people claiming that a gay character with a same-sex love interest being a minor character in a massive game makes it “Political” and “Forces an Agenda”

Especially as the “Non-Political Games” they stick to are always the most Leftist shit like BioShock (Why Libertarianism is bad and will always lead to someone destroying the world to stack the deck in their favor), Fallout (Blind Nationalism is meaningless and will force you into a conflict that causes you to lose everything you held dear), and Residnet Evil (America’s For-Profit Healthcare System creates company that are evil and cannot be trusted with people’s lives)

Funny, it seems like Right Wing Politics actually make game stories worse, like Dead Rising 3 (Vaccines are evil and a means to spy on you, also the President is an expy of Hillary… this is also where Dead Rising fell into a spiral with 4 finishing it off) and BioShock Infinite (Good game, but also another franchise killer with a story that pisses off everyone… One of the key points of the story? Black slaves revolting against their highly bigoted white owners are just as evil as the people who kidnapped them, took them to a city in the sky, and forced them to do all the labor)

“The only difference between Zachary Cumsock and Daisy Fitzroy are how you spell their name!” - Booker DeWitt being the dumbest man alive

God what’s another game with terrible Right Wing politics? Hard to say because most of them are budget title shitposts like the Kyle Rittenhouse game on Steam or the various “Play as Trump and save America” games on Steam

I actually can’t think of much media considered “Good” by anyone that’s right leaning at all aside from The Dark Knight Returns (Where humanely treating and rehabilitating criminals is seen as foolishly naive and the government is incapable of helping anyone… To be fair Reagan was President), King of The Hill (and even then Hank would be a solid never Trumper, don’t get me wrong, as much as I love Hank I don’t see him being much an LGBT Ally (Especially not to T’s) without breaking character), and… huh… I can’t think of anything.

Does that show Ben Shapiro’s people made to be a Pro-Right Cartoon, but failed when the super woke antagonist was… a far more likable character than the protagonist, and said protagonist was so accidentally queer-coded as a closested gay bear with a crush on the woke antagonist guy that it attracted a Leftist fanbase that ships the Protagonist and Antagonist together? To such an extent that it might as well be a canon pairing?

Yeah does that show count? Sorry I don’t remember the name

Anything else?

Nope that’s about it, it’s almost like Conservatism is a backwards ideology that can only bring destruction in its wake and deep down we all know that it inevitably leads to fascism.

I also find it funny how much stuff gets called “Woke” when it really isn’t…

Like the Tomb Raider prequel-disguised-as-a-reboot where it’s called woke because Lara’s sexualized less. Which while true, is only to an extent, she still has the largest chest in the game (To the extent that it looks like she has implants, especially in scenes with other female characters) and every camera angle is throwing her delicious cake in your face (Which appeals to my bisexuality, just cause I’m female doesn’t mean I don’t like fanservice), and personality-wise… Lara spends a large amount of the game helpless, looking up to a male role model, with her combat prowess being based more in acting on a combination of fear, instinct, and adrenaline than anything else. She’s constantly shown as being in a state of fear to such an extent that some parts of the prequel/reboot trilogy dubbed “Survivor Trilogy” might as well be a Horror Game, and people who work on Horror Games for a living agree since Lara Croft’s the most recent addition to the big Horror Crossover game Dead By Daylight!

Oh and her iconic weapon is a makeshift bow (You’d think she’d start carrying heavier ordinance in the sequels), she never even gets her trademark Dual Pistols (the first game implies she hasn’t earned them yet… but they’re not in the sequels at all), a weapon of last resort crafted in desperation.

Meanwhile Original Lara is a wise-cracking adventure seeker never backing down from a challenge, with her iconic weapon being a stupidly large amount of ammo fired out of two guns she keeps on her person at all times, ready to fight. This weapon speaks more to someone ready to kick ass and take names.

Original Lara is often seen outdoing her male peers with her biggest rival being another woman, as if to say that literally no man can be her equal.

If we put them side-by-side, it’s actually Original Lara that feels more like the typical “Strong Female Lead” they complain about, but it’s the reboot that’s woke?

For the record, I like the Survivor Trilogy, but Original Lara is still my favorite Lara. (And you bet your ass I bought the Classic Lara skin the second it was available for DBD) We need more chicks who are “Basically the female equivalent of Duke Nukem”, and only Lara and Bombshell (from Ion Fury) come close to that bill. (And well original Lara is more recognizable from a visual standpoint, reboot Lara doesn’t stand out as much to the point that I sometimes get her mixed up with REmake 3’s version of Jill… My autistic face blindness doesn’t help)

Sorry I kind of went on a tangent there. I LOVE LARA~!

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I’m facing a dilemma here.

On the one hand, I believe Ivanka and Elmo are both devious enough to take the message of someone they despise and use it for themselves.

On the other hand, both are probably too stupid to understand the message in the first place. The old malintent vs. incompetence problem.

To be fair, I also never interpreted the message of these movies in this way; but on the other hand, I was about 13 when the movie released here, and I can’t remember referring to any of the movie’s elements since then, less so to use them as allegories. While impressive in a technical way back then, they never had such a lasting impact on me.

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Considering that taking the red pill causes you to awaken to the realities of the world around you, and you could describe that as being woke, I’d say they’re idiots.

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If any political ideology other than, you know, being trans, gets to claim the red pill it’s soulists, who argue consensus reality is fake and bad.

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I think people tend to forget what Morpheus mentioned to Neo about freeing minds past a certain age. So awakened and presented with reality, but not being able to let go of engrained notions and probably not very helpful in the fight against the machines.

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Ivanka is not stupid at all, this is a dangerous thought process that because someone is attached to ineptitude they themselves most too be inept. She’s manipulative and often plays the dumb pretty girl because people buy it and it is at times very very advantageous.

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3 points

Disgusting

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This is the same guy who loves Iain Banks’ Culture novels while somehow remaining oblivious to their strongly leftist and anti-capitalist stance, and just sees “cool spaceships go pew pew”. He’s a complete moron.

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He also says he loves the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, which is extremely anti-corporate and portrays every AI as flawed, an asshole, or both.

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32 points

Except the doors; they were perfect.

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23 points

sighs with the satisfaction of a job well done 😮‍💨

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I started reading that series recently. I was aware that Elon is a fan and named multiple SpaceX modules after Culture ships. Absolutely blew my mind and made me realize how dumb he is, since The Culture seems like the opposite of everything he stands for. Plus some very pro trans messages IMHO.

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The Culture is Fully Automated Luxury Gary Space Communism, and all he saw was AI ships have funny names.

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3 points

Set course… for Gary Space.

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5 points

He’s Veppers.

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68 points

MAGA fools needed 4 seasons to understand that The Boys is making fun of them.

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Didn’t a lot of republicans also get mad after season 3‽

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It’s very easy to read Billy Butcher as a right wing reactionary vigilante, because he’s written as a caricature of an 80s/90s action hero.

It’s easy to read Homelander as a Woke, Soy, Cucked establishment liberal because - early on - that’s exactly the role he fills.

The show has gone downhill as the (relatively thin) subtlety in the narrative has worn away. By season 4, they were all but branding “Good Guy” and “Bad Guy” on people’s heads, in a show that originally did at least pretend to struggle with morality in what amounts to a guerrilla war.

That’s before you get into the compulsive need to make gross out humor the Cruz of every episode.

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It kinda does start off with a member of the Seven killing the main characters girlfriend, so good/bad should be well established for anyone who’s awake

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Starlight’s main function in season 1

  1. Is a contrast to how evil every single member of the 7 and Vought are.
  2. Vehicle for of women problems. Ya know, like rape, objectification, position in male dominated environment.
  3. Love interest for Hughie. Where down the line they form a relationship of a powerful woman and a bit lost and freaked out boy becoming a man way too late.

This is all, oh so thinly veiled and conveyed that I am sure it went over most peoples heads.

Oh, by season 3 Homelander fucks a nazi that is a member of the 7. For people that still do not get it. If you align with a nazi state, like say russia, it makes you a nazi.

Like how the fuck do you need a talk of concentration camps to finally catch on?

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It kinda does start off with a member of the Seven killing the main characters girlfriend

This is pitched as tragic, but it isn’t reactionary. A-Train is a pro-athlete-turned-media-celebrity who goes out of his way to stay out of politics and simply collect a paycheck. And the fact that he’s a poc, a drug user, and a Hollyweird Celebrity all scratch certain itches in the conservative brain pan. Rush Limbaugh would have all the same vile shit to say about A-Train as he had to say about Donavan McNabb.

good/bad should be well established for anyone who’s awake

Jack Quaid’s character arc - particularly in that first season - is in his struggle over the best response to the loss of his girlfriend. What makes him “good” is his ability to move beyond the petty impulse for immediate vengeance, stay clear of the knee-jerk anti-Super bigotry that Butcher falls into, and work towards a revolutionary struggle that challenges the underlying social system. That’s what makes him “left coded” in the end, and its not quite so heavy handed inside those first two seasons. Its also easy to lose track of that arc when you’re wading through fountains of blood and rivers of poop-jokes.

The show really feels itself in Season 3, as you get into a larger cast of characters with more complex relationships to the Supers and to one another. But it falls off in Season 4 and 5 as everything becomes excessively black-and-white, in an effort to discourage misreadings of the material by piling on cheap fetishistic tropes. Its not enough for Homelander to be a guy who commits massacres of civilians on a whim. He’s got to be a creep and a pervert. All the bad guys have to carry out some kind of sexual fetish, while the good guys need to be in these normal-ish largely cis-het relationships.

As the showrunners increasingly lean on sexuality to code for good/evil, the moral statement of the show stops being about peaceful coexistence or egalitarian economic reform or de-militarization and ends up asserting the need for good guys to have vanilla sex lives.

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It is very easy to miss that Butcher is ping-ponging between:

  1. Tough guy that uses people.
  2. Guy with high morals that values friendships.
  3. A father in a fundamentally broken relationship that is out of reach.

People might easily miss these when he says oi cunt as a distraction.

Also, it might be easily missed but all his using of establishment and grinding against it, while championing people might get lost on people. Butcher does his oi cunt I shoot ya gobba off with a shooty-shoty, it is bong o’clock way too much so the fact that he is closer to a redfash might get lost on people. Also because actual redfash historical figures are rarely portrayed as anything but a dumb baddie.

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I’m not sure how anyone can read Homelander as anything but a right winger. The name pretty much gives it away, and even if it didn’t the fact that he has an American Flag costume and surrounds himself in American Flag stuff should be a dead giveaway.

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I’m not sure how anyone can read Homelander as anything but a right winger.

Its not that he’s right-wing so much as his the Good Guy.

His early-show character arc is one of a feckless image-obsessed corporate prop. As the show progresses, he breaks out of the “cucked” liberal mindset and asserts himself as an ultra-nationalist for the benefit of an insecure and gullible media audience. So a right-winger can read Homelander’s arc as a kind of Hero’s Journey, from captive tool of the (((globalists))) into a fully realized superhero.

So, using a JBP-inspired reading of the material, he starts out as a liberal in season 1 and self-actualizes as a fascist by season 3. And this makes him the show’s protagonist, as a result.

the fact that he has an American Flag costume and surrounds himself in American Flag stuff should be a dead giveaway.

He’d hardly be the first liberal to wrap himself in an American flag.

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