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I know that COVID isn’t regarded to be a serious disease if you’re vaccinated and reasonably healthy, but I had mental fogginess for about 2 months after my infection.

I mostly seemed outwardly okay during that time, but it was a tremendous effort to just do the bare minimum.

I hope he ducks out if there’s even a fraction of those types of symptoms.

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A roommate of mine was down for almost two months. He still has some mental lapses and foggy moments. That was over three years ago.

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That sounds completely awful. He has my sympathy.

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Same happened to my wife. Had long haul covid and now has a very hard time learning new things and retaining information for short periods. It’s been hard but she has learned to use better note Tekkno and task management apps to help.

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16 points

Isn’t this how planet of the apes story goes?

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If apes start revolting, I’m on their side.

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1 point

“You maniacs! You blew it up! Honestly, I get it.”

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80 points

It is serious long term for 1/5 people.

COVID being no big deal is just a lie society agreed on for convenience.

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I know that COVID isn’t regarded to be a serious disease if you’re vaccinated and reasonably healthy

Bruh…

At 81 years old, life is a serious medical condition.

People of that age die of “little” shit all the time.

And remember he’s saying he just tested positive, it’s not why he’s been like this for at least the last year it’s that he’s going to be even worse through the election.

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This is the thing with old age that I think most people won’t understand until it happens to them. The body’s ability to deal with those things severely deteriorates with age. You can be peppy and active one day, and on death’s door the next. COVID has proven to be particularly bad for the elderly, but every “minor” ailment or injury is much more serious, and possibly life threatening given the wrong mix of complications. Biden has probably the best chance being in the position he is, and testing positive isn’t the same as being symptomatic, but he’s by no means free and clear. It’ll be interesting to see how this turns out.

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I have two young, vaccinated and otherwise healthy family members who lost their ability to work or even walk for more than 100m outside their house for 6+ months. Covid can be extremely serious even now.

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I’m 42, vaxxed, and what passes for reasonably healthy in the US (which is to say, all kinds of fucked but still technically able to work). I had covid this week and at the peak I actually needed help standing up after kneeling to rummage through a drawer.

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I didn’t get the mental fogginess but even so, I really haven’t ever felt that I fully recovered. I used to be an Ironman when it came to getting sick but now it’s like I get knocked down every few weeks with some flu-like symptoms.

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That happened to me. I got COVID pre-vaccine, and for years after that I got every bug going, including multiple COVID infections. After time this seems to have passed. I have now gone one year without COVID, which is a miracle. I feel like my first infection buggered up my immune system. I think I have finally recovered now. I wish you the best of luck.

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3 points

Maybe you’re just getting old?

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Don’t downvote him, it’s entirely possible. However, it was more sudden of a change than I equate to aging. I know all the other effects, those are more subtle

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9 points

Why are you gaslighting the guy? Some people do really get fucked by covid

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25 points

I couldn’t finish sentences or remember common words when I needed them for about 9 months.

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10 points

Oh good so more of the same

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4 points

Real

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80 year Olds tend to die from covid. Of the things to be concerned about, his mental sharpness is obviously not even a requirement.

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They’re going to shove the entire nation’s supply of steroids and antivirals down his throat

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4 points

Too late! Trump already took it. Also bleach.

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5 points

Old people die at higher rates to covid, but when fully up to date on vaccines, the rate isn’t very high to begin with.

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more than likely he is going to get the antivrals and such they would only used for hospitalized right off the bat. like paxlovid.

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You don’t need to be hospitalized to get all the antivirals. In fact, that’s the whole thing paxlovid is supposed to prevent. Anyone with risk factors can take paxlovid, and it’s very effective at preventing severe covid. It should be started as soon as possible, not waiting until someone’s already hospitalized. Even in unvaccinated people, if taken early in the course, is 90% effective at preventing severe disease.

Remdesivir is the one that’s generally only for hospitalized patients, though even that can be used pre hospital too.

Anyways point is, if you get covid, and have risk factors for severe covid, call your doctor or urgent care to get paxlovid to take if you can, especially if you’re unvaccinated.

And yeah between getting diagnosed quickly, getting paxlovid I’m sure, and being immunized, Biden will very likely be fine.

Edit: yes he started paxlovid https://www.npr.org/2024/07/17/nx-s1-5043814/biden-covid

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And to add on “risk factors” is incredibly broad. Being overweight or having some very common diseases counts. And that’s only if the prescribing medical professional is being a stickler.

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I took Paxlovid when I got COVID. Started taking it the day I tested positive. Worked great initially - I was very tired for around a week, sleeping for most of the first two days, but didn’t feel completely terrible.

However, a day or two after I had finished taking it, the symptoms came back much worse and I was pretty sick for another week and a half. Apparently rebound/recurrence of symptoms happens in around one in five people that take Paxlovid.

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Paxlovid isn’t just for hospitals, and for a time it was available for free with any insurance and the barest “medical need.” I got COVID in 2023 and got Paxlovid just by asking the doctor nicely.

(And despite that, my symptoms were awful and it took two months to fully recover. )

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still I bet he was diagnosed and given it faster. When it comes to viruses the sooner you stunt the growth curve the more effective it is.

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My experience has been that the antivirals are pretty easy to get just for a regular case. If you catch it, don’t assume you can’t get them. But do contact your doctor early, as there is a time window. Better to get on them early when you’re not feeling that badly than wait until you think you’re sick enough to justify it.

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I know that COVID isn’t regarded to be a serious disease

Generally by capitalists who want their workforce to keep making them money.

By the millions who actually get it and are left chronically ill (or who don’t survive at all), many who aren’t “reasonably healthy” yet don’t deserve any less consideration - not so much.

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It also exacerbates mental decline in elderly patients. You can also lose 3-9 IQ points with each infection. It stays in the brain for long after the initial infection and disrupts the brain-blood-barrier. It’s honestly (still) pretty scary: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2400189

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13 points

I’m guessing you didn’t watch the debate.

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10 points

He’ll be fine, and he’s not going anywhere. I wish people would drop it.

I’d vote for his corpse if it will keep Trump out . It doesn’t even matter.

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1 point

Good then anyone can replace him and we’ll all vote for them instead

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Damn, I can’t imagine 2 months of mental fogginess… I’d probably lose my job if that happened to me.

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We also need to take into account the guy is close to 90. He’s part of the high risk group.

Edit: Honest mistake, I legit thought he was older than 81 and closer to 90.

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68 points

81 is an old enough age that you can make your point without just adding basically an entire decade to his age.

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24 points

I legit thought he was older than 81, my bad. But yes, either way, both are in the high risk range.

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Look, we all know Biden is basically a bajillion years old. Trump, on the other hand, is so young that he hasn’t even been born yet.

It’s crazy to put into perspective what a small blip all this is compared to the age of the earth, which has existed since the beginning of existence and will continue until the end of time.

Even our infinite and immeasurable planet is nothing when you compare it to the solar system, which contains everything that’s ever existed ever.

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2 points

Hes basically 150 years old. /s

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21 points

He’s not close to 90, he’s 81.

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24 points

They rounded up to the nearest 90.

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6 points

That’s closer to 90 than most people.

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99 points

Exit strategy?

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42 points

dies

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23 points

God Almighty has decided.

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12 points

Do Donald first please

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As an anti-theist:

Praise god

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I really hope if for no other reason that I spent a fair bit of time in 2020 telling my friends that Biden wouldn’t make it all the way to the end of his term. I wish the guy well but I love being right.

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6 points

You might need to see a therapist.

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You’re not right you fucking moron, so much so that he’s literally running for pres again, that’s how not right you are you fucking idiot.

spent a fair bit of time in 2020 telling my friends that Biden wouldn’t make it all the way to the end of his term.

god that’s pathetic, a fair bit of time? You just hounding your peeps begging them to listen to your Biden-will-die-in-office theories? Lord knows they know just how fucking braindead you are.

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[T]he President will be self-isolating in accordance with CDC guidance for symptomatic individuals

Is that still the guideline? I know several people who have gotten COVID recently and just went about like normal, like people used to do when they were sick pre-pandemic. I told one of them they were morons, but they claimed you don’t have to isolate any more since the CDC changed their guidelines.

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You’re supposed to isolate until you don’t have symptoms,however long that takes.

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It’s actually worse than that. You’re supposed to isolate until you’re not feverish and your symptoms are improving. Which is not really at all related to when you can spread it.

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My understanding was that the instructions from the CDC were changed based on when you are likely to be contagious. The research indicated that following the updated guidance is sufficient to prevent/reduce the spread. At least, that’s the explanation I read when they changed the recommendation. Can’t find it now.

Realistically, it’s not the people who are following the CDC guidance who are spreading COVID.

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https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/p0301-respiratory-virus.html

When people get sick with a respiratory virus, the updated guidance recommends that they stay home and away from others. For people with COVID-19 and influenza, treatment is available and can lessen symptoms and lower the risk of severe illness. The recommendations suggest returning to normal activities when, for at least 24 hours, symptoms are improving overall, and if a fever was present, it has been gone without use of a fever-reducing medication.

So yes, the guidance is that you isolate until you are fever free and other symptoms are at least improving. The major change is that they don’t recommend a fixed length of isolation anymore.

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Supposed to mask and increase hygiene steps for 5 days after ending isolation as well.

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Girlfriend had it couple weeks ago. She stayed at home. Missed some important events too. But she rather do that than risk spreading it even more or infecting someone at risk.

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Please tell your girlfriend thank you for being considerate of others.

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His job is to meet many important people throughout the day - day after day. It’s probably applicable here.

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All of those people are lying (or just stupid) assholes, and are spreading disease throughout our society.

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2 points

Who do you think is better briefed on cdc guidelines?

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5 points

Probably not the person I called a moron.

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42 points

It would be pretty funny if Trump survived a bullet, but Biden dies from turbo flu.

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Funny isn’t the word I would choose.

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9 points

What’s comedy without a bit of tragedy?

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I’ve had more than enough tragedy, when do we get to the fun part?

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6 points

Hilarious?

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7 points

We live in the Shit Timeline™

Biden will die, but only after the DNC shoves him in via the remote vote they’re pushing, then we’re stuck with Kamala instead of having the chance for someone like Warren to step up…

I wish we weren’t so misogynistic and obsessed with name recognition… I think she would have been great if the old folks didn’t just vote the name they know who’s been around forever in the primaries in 16…

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5 points

Yes because picking Anyone over the current VP as the candidate signals you’re doing so well.

Who honestly thinks they’d pick Anyone but Harris? Again, it’s all fan fic that Anyone but those two will be the nominee.

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it would be insane for it to be anyone but harris.

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Depends on the timing tbh… If it was maybe 2-4 weeks out from the election, it could potentially galvanize Democratic voters and more people could end up voting for Harris because of it.

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Well that may be it since he said he’d step aside for a medical condition.

But since COVID isn’t all that threatening in most cases I doubt he’ll consider that a condition.

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I don’t know man.

I had COVID like 7 months ago, and that headache was so god damn bad, I thought my head was gonna explode.

Imagine the worst tension headache you’ve ever had in your life and it won’t go away even with a thousand milligrams of Tylenol. I couldn’t imagine going through that at eighty one years old

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This was the most memorable thing about covid for me besides the fatigue. I rarely get headaches but it gave me the worst headache of my life for a solid week.

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Right? Same with me. I rarely get them too.

I was tired as fuck and you can’t sleep because the headache is like a vice crushing your head.

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It affects different people in different ways.

I had zero headache, a runny nose (but only my right nostril), was a bit fatigued, and thirsty like a man in the desert for a 1,000 days. These lasted 3 days, the mild fatigue about a week.

Hell of a birthday week that was!

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Plus the fatigue was horrible and lasted for weeks.

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10 points

This seems like coincidental timing to me. He would definitely have something more severe than just COVID.

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I don’t know, especially considering the effects of COVID on older folks and long COVID, he may be willing to use this as his step-down excuse.

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Yeah, can we get someone in there to diagnose some long COVID while he’s still in the acute phase?

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True.

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since COVID isn’t all that threatening in most cases I doubt he’ll consider that a condition.

In the case of an 81yo with one of the most stressful jobs in the world, though? You bet your ass it is!

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