cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17672200
Former congressman Harold Ford, former chair of the Democratic Leadership Council and banking executive, made a similar point on Fox. “I was an elite that supported you in 2020,” Ford said. “And said that we should do everything we possibly could do to advantage you against Bernie Sanders, because I thought Bernie Sanders’ politics were detrimental to the party and to the country.”
Oh my gosh, universal, tax-paid healthcare, higher education, and increased worker protections. So detrimental. Things most of Europe and even our neighbor to the North handles just fine.
And y’all think these people are still on the left in any way, shape, or form?
I’ve said this over and over again, (…) Joe Biden was not picked in 2020 because he was the only person that could beat Trump. He was picked because he was the only person that could beat Bernie Sanders, rightly or wrongly. … That conclusion was made, okay? “Oh my gosh, coming out of Nevada, Bernie Sanders is going to be the nominee!” And people, just like they are now, said, “Ahhh, I don’t think that’s going to work,” so they were looking for an alternative.
- Adam Smith
I was an elite that supported (Biden) in 2020, (…) And said that we should do everything we possibly could do to advantage (Biden) against Bernie Sanders, because I thought Bernie Sanders’ politics were detrimental to the party and to the country.
- Harold Ford
This seems to be the gist of the article.
Former congressman Harold Ford, former chair of the Democratic Leadership Council and banking executive, made a similar point on Fox. “I was an elite that supported you in 2020,” Ford said. “And said that we should do everything we possibly could do to advantage you against Bernie Sanders, because I thought Bernie Sanders’ politics were detrimental to the party and to the country.”
From Harold Ford’s Wiki
In April 2021, Ford joined Fox News as a political contributor.[7] He frequently appears on Special Report as a panel member and was named a co-host of The Five in January 2022.
Hey great going democratic party leadership, you’ve always looked like incompetent morons, now you look like corrupt incompetent morons!
SHOULD HAVE BEEN BERNIE. YOU STOLE OUR FUTURE TO PRESERVE YOUR PRESENT PROFITS.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN BERNIE. YOU STOLE OUR FUTURE TO PRESERVE YOUR PRESENT PROFITS.
I’m not sure we should be so pessimistic yet. They blocked a candidate but did nothing to kill it’s popularity. As long as we don’t succumb to Fascism within the next four years, there’s still a massive base of voters that would vote for a socialist in the '28 primary, and the left democrats will have had 12 years since Bernie’s first campaign to build up the infrastructure for it by that point.
“Fox News pundit now openly admits wanting to YET AGAIN fool people into helping billionaires get gigantic GOP tax cuts like in 2016 which was Bernie’s worst nightmare”.
2016: PROFITS WERE INCREASED GREATLY
SHOULD HAVE BEEN BERNIE.
We should have had more people wanting to vote Bernie. Absolutely. Too bad you didn’t work hard enough on that.
TO PRESERVE YOUR PRESENT PROFITS.
Biden raised the minimum corporate tax from 0% to 15%, and skillfully did it with the votes of 2 senators who are now independents.
2020: PROFITS WERE NOT PRESERVED.
Too bad you didn’t work hard enough on that.
Certainly not as hard as the party worked to shut out progressives for you.
for you.
For me as a huge Bernie Sanders supporter since before he was even a senator? LMFAO.
the party worked to shut out progressives
Will you stop with the nonsense? Who the fuck is “the party” and exactly how the fuck do they “shut out” people like me? You NEVER hear Bernie Sanders saying this shit – because he’s not an idiot.
With Democrats like that who needs Republicans?
If you think any one of them ain’t on the same team, you are a sucker. They may believe they are and think they’re telling the truth. Doesn’t matter. They’re capitalist. Every thing they do is theft from you and everyone else. Doesn’t matter. If you don’t think otherwise enough to at least figure out the truth, then you are as delirious as every one of them. It don’t matter. Result is always collective suicide irrespective of who does whatever they think they are doing or who wins that whack-a-troll.
Good going. Let’s argue and divide the Democrats when it needs unity the most.
“Oh man this is very inconvenient to the echo chamber. Please move on everyone nothing to see here”
We held our noses and voted for him despite everything we knew in 2020. What did that get us? A genocide halfway across the world.
This time around I decided to believe Biden when he says he is a Zionist. He demonstrated it over 30,000 times so far.
I still remember on October 6th when Biden said “fuck all those Palestinians, murder them all.”
It wasn’t because of the actions of a terrorist group that sparked a disproportionate response at all.
Collective Punishment is a war crime and against international law. So was the blockade and occupation of Gaza and the West Bank. Palestinians aren’t resisting out of nothing and their resistance is legal per international law.
If this is the position most liberals hold, I see no reason why Arab and Muslim Americans should vote for a party that demonizes them anyways.
Now we don’t know if Biden ever said that about Palestinians on October 6th but he did say it about Lebanese in 1982. So I know that he at least believes it and his actions show it.
Begin said he was shocked at how passionately Biden supported Israel’s invasion when Biden “said he would go even further than Israel, adding that he’d forcefully fend off anyone who sought to invade his country, even if that meant killing women or children.” Begin said, “I disassociated myself from these remarks,” adding: “I said to him: No, sir; attention must be paid. According to our values, it is forbidden to hurt women and children, even in war. Sometimes there are casualties among the civilian population as well. But it is forbidden to aspire to this. This is a yardstick of human civilization, not to hurt civilians.” The comments were striking from Begin, who had been notorious as a leader of the Irgun, a militant group that carried out some of the worst acts of ethnic cleansing accompanying the creation of the state of Israel, including the 1948 Deir Yassin massacre.
https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-israeli-invasion-lebanon/
jacobin doesn’t want unity; jacobin wants to elect far right republicans.
also because most of the terminally online far left agree with the far right. which is why most of them are transphobic and anti-immigrant af.
Reluctantly, I gave the piece a fair shake.
It’s garbage. We know that the DNC pushed other more moderate candidates out so that a more moderate candidate, one the average democratic voter and independent thinks they want, could win instead of them all splitting the vote. This was obvious, not some conspiracy theory.
The author of the piece is trying to claim that because one person said they chose a candidate that could beat sanders, that was the ultimate goal. But they wanted to beat sanders because they felt he couldn’t beat trump. They quote one person effectively saying this, but then dishonestly spin it.
The second quote is one person saying that he thinks sanders policies are bad, as if this proves anything.
It’s amazing anyone reads this site without realizing how terrible it is.
