The convention hasn’t even happened yet, Biden wasn’t officially the nominee. Ballots wouldn’t have been printed yet even if this was a lock.
So how many votes do you think biden will STILL get?
Republicans will pull some shenanigans in at least one state to keep Biden on the ballot. My bet is Ohio. So, a non trivial amount.
They’ll be violating several of their own state laws, and federal law if they do so. I know it’s easy to go with the “but Trump gets away with everything” - reality is our elections to date have been free and fair and there’s no indication that’s going to change. The folks that own the elections by and large actually care about democracy. His fake electors scheme failed for a reason, and it wasn’t just dumb luck.
to keep Biden on the ballot.
I think this should be “to put Biden on the ballot.” He is not currently the one the ballot, as he is not the Democratic nominee — the nominee is chosen at the party’s convention, which hasn’t happened yet for the Dems.
You’re absolutely correct. I was under the assumption that states pre printed ballots based on the presumptive nominees. Apparently states that do that are being naughty/cutting corners.
He’s not even on the ballot in Ohio. A candidate hasn’t been chosen, so if they resort to any fuckery there it could be an attempt to keep the Democrats from having a candidate on the ballot at all.
Yup. That’s exactly what they tried already
What I am scared of: there is no legal ground to stop a harris ticket, and the Supreme Court has a history of decisions without legal ground helping the gop
I believe the legal ground is that several states have cutoff dates before the Democratic Convention. Usually everyone says “oops” and deals with it like adults, but there’s room for shenanigans
What are the cutoff days and have they been violated?
Edit: A quick Internet search has showed that this isn’t a thing.
This seems to be a good informal source with all the deadlines and what they are for:
https://ballotpedia.org/State_laws_and_party_rules_on_replacing_a_presidential_nominee,_2024
Democratic primary is Aug 19-22
From your article
Nearly half of the states have a deadline in August, and most require certification or identification of a candidate to fill a vacancy no later than September 6. Replacing a candidate’s name on the ballot in September, therefore, becomes increasingly difficult as many states will have already printed ballots or begun to allow voters to cast ballots.
Combine that with some Republicans vowing retribution when the convicted felon was removed from the ballot by a state or two, and you have something for them to try.
At least three states – Washington, Ohio and Alabama – have given notice that the Democratic National Convention will occur too late for state legal deadlines for filing the appropriate paperwork to appear on the presidential ballot.
The convention hasn’t even happened yet, nothing officially has made Biden the candidate for the Democrats, the system is built that even if he won the nomination in the primaries, the electors at convention still pick the candidate. While abnormal for modern times, it follows the system originally designed. The courts can force a candidate on or off the ballot ahead of their actual nomination.
Vermine Supreme 2024! I want my pony!
I’m down to vote for who the fuck ever can beat Trump. I honestly don’t care at this point as long as Project 2025 and Trump are stopped. FAR too many people are going to be hurt by that and I’ll do whatever it takes to see that not happen.
