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okay. I’ve only seen stills of blue guy on a plate. How does this have any resemblance to the last supper? Is it just that there’s people at a long table? The more images I find the more concerned I am that christians have not seen a picture of the last supper.

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It’s a well established historical fact that the last supper is the only time in history that people gathered around a table !

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gathered around a table

Or at least gathered on one side of a table.

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In Canada we call that a Degrassi.

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Actually, the one time in history where this many people decidedly failed to gather around a table.

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I always have to go to these stupid work lunches where someone hands their phone to the waiter and everyone has to lean in, like two dozen people at a long ass table so some idiot can email spam it the next day, like we all really wanted to be there.

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I was hoping to find a video of the performance, since maybe it gave off more Last Supper vibes than a still photo. But I’ll be damned, there’s not a video of it anywhere. Just lots of videos of people complaining about it.

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Have a look at this post: https://jlai.lu/post/9004279

Screenshots with timing to show the 2 moments people are confusing

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Thanks, that was the context I needed. Also at 1:53:30 in that same video.

Seems to me that there’s a good reason none of the news articles are linking to the video of the performance. When viewed outside of a couple screenshots, it’s clear this ain’t shit.

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Without the blue guy it did look a lot more like The Last Supper, though I didn’t really notice it when watching

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it is funny how christians by and large do not follow the biblical holiday but totally do the cool pagan ones.

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Especially Halloween. Where the fuck do they get off stealing the best and most very different from their own shit?

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then they tack on all saints and all souls but nobody acknowledges them.

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Holy shit, do they ever acknowledge those holidays, but I think it’s because they already had a “day of the dead,” before they were forcibly converted to the teachings of Cathol.

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I can tell by how I don’t even know what you’re talking about. 🤪

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They only care about it when they can be angry and righteous about it. Don’t give them oxygen !

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Which one is the biblical holiday?

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both. there are like half a dozen mentioned in the bible as special sabbaths and the sabbath is technically a weekly holiday

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The ones In. The Bible

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What, that’s not common knowledge?

Btw, christmas was stolen from Yule. And some stories in the old testament are from Gilgamesh and Atrahasis Epos, like Mose’ abandonement in a reed basket as an example.

Literally all beings and concepts in christianity have a pagan origin. Even ancient YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah/Tetragrammaton (God) goes probably back to El.

But i guess that’s natural, concepts like an underworld are in above epics too, those sorts of stories developed over civilizations.

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For sure, the ancient Israelites had a pantheon of gods, just like the Greeks. I mean, their monotheism developed out their own version paganism, of which Yahweh was but one of their gods. Specifically, the god of the storms that occurred in southern palestinian. He had a wife, multiple kids and a giant oversized novelty penis. Along with his god sized cock, he would often be represented as a bull, as a man with horns or a golden calf.

Why yes, theexact kind of golden calf the Israelites started to worship when moses when up mount sinai to get the 10 commandments. Its specifically the exact reason they did it and not that they just decided to worship some random cow, despite having seen a bag full of miracles and monstrous amounts of child murder from their actual god first hand.

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Yup, the calf was most likely a regular part of the northern Israel’s worship, but not of the southern Judah’s. Since most of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) is written from a Judean perspective (which makes sense; it survived longer), it treats it as blasphemous, when in reality, to them, it wasn’t.

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What, that’s not common knowledge?

To the American Christians throwing a fit about this? No, they have no idea.

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Like 4/5 of the Bible isn’t common knowledge to most Christians. To say nothing of the actual history of Christianity.

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Btw, i googled ancient epics because i thought there was one more with similiar name to Atrahasis’ but my god, i know most of the names from Anime.

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You would think it was common knowledge, especially given the fact that Hades is in the Bible but it’s not. They want to believe that they are the one true religion and do all sorts of mental gymnastics to keep their religion pure.

These are the same people that get mad when they uear Beethoven’s Ode to Joy because he doesn’t use the lyrics from the Christian hymn that stole his melody.

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The same christians who got offended by this would also complain about muslims being prudish when they get pissy about showing their prophet.

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For accuracy sake, yes the depiction in the Olympics was meant to be Feast of the Gods, but that painting came after The Last Supper and is thought to be directly inspired by da Vinci. Last Supper - 1495 Feast of the Gods - 1635-1640

Linking Wikipedia. The primaries appear to be in French 😅 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Festin_des_Dieux

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People are talking about two different moments, 40 minutes from each other: https://jlai.lu/post/9004279

Sorry for the French, but the screens and minutes are there.

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Don’t forget the people that are mad at this also get mad then they hear Beethoven’s Ode to Joy performed or translated because the lyrics aren’t the same as the Christian hymn that plagiarized his melody. They also get mad when they hear Greensleeves performed because those lyrics don’t line up with the Christian hymn that uses the same melody either.

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This makes much more sene than Last Supper. Got a source on it actually suppised to be reannacment of this painting?

Not doubting you because I have eyes but some people migh be blinded by their christian goggles.

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Got a source on it actually suppised to be reannacment of this painting?

The DJ in the center posted about it: https://jlai.lu/post/9004279

Also the post has screenshots about the two different moments, 40 minutes from each other.

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Ok, I don’t speak French, but tried to translate using the new translator beta in Firefox. From what I understoon from the OP, they say it was in fact Last Supper and is making comparisons to it. This is somehow confirmed by DJ from all people?

In the comments of the linked post, there is a link to an article where the artistic director directly reacts and says it is not. That it was supposed to be an image of a pagan festival. He doesn’t cite inspirations, but it being the Feast of the Gods mentioned in the comment here is not too far fetched.

From the article, as translated by Firefox:

Was it the Last Supper? It was “not my inspiration,” replied Thomas Jolly. “I think it was quite clear, there’s Dionysus coming to this table. He’s here why? Because he is god of the feast…, of wine, and father of Sequana, goddess connected to the river.” “The idea was rather to make a great pagan festival connected to the gods of Olympus… Olympus… Olympism,” he continued.

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