6 points

Fuck off, Logitech

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I guess I’m not surprised enshittification of physical objects is becoming more of a trend than an oddity, but it’s still happening sooner than I expected. :/

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6 points

Have you used a TV in the past 10 years?

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Not one that required a subscription to operate, but I’ve heard those are out there too.

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8 points

Both my mouse and keyboard are logitech and I love them, despite how terrible their software is in both stability and usability. The only reason I put up with the terrible software is because I only had to interact with it the one time to set up my color scheme and mouse dpi. Just trying to get the software to install to do that was terrible and that’s what they want people to subscribe for, sounds dead on arrival to me.

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Logitech already builds mice that will last a lifetime. This is just them deciding that they should get paid every month for that.

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If you want to get rid of their software, for the RGB part you can use OpenRGB instead. It runs on both Linux and Windows and can do pretty much any RGB controller (RAM, GPU, mainboard, mouse, keyboard, …).

https://openrgb.org/

For changing DPI I use Piper but I don’t think that one is available on Windows.

https://github.com/libratbag/piper

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They both sound pretty good options. I looked real quick but didn’t see an answer but do either of them allow you to save to the onboard memory of Logitech devices or does it only work with them running in the background?

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Yes, they both save to the device on my mouse.

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18 points

I have a (mostly) forever mouse already. It has high quality Omron switches rated for millions of clicks, an Aliexpress page bookmarked as well as a soldering iron for when they need replacing. Anything that is “forever” only needs good quality components and the ability to repair whatever may go wrong. Any company that claims to sell something that either will not break or wear out is one to avoid. A good example I can think of is BMW who no longer put drain plugs on their transmissions for fluid replacement, their reasoning: “The fluid is for lifetime usage.” while the small print states the “lifetime” is roughly 120k miles. Similar story with their “lifetime” timing chains too, except those weren’t even lasting the small print mileage. Didn’t stop them trying to sell customers the whole replacement engine too.

Source: God, don’t make me replace another BMW transmission. I’m tired.

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What mouse if you don’t mind sharing?

My Logitech G602 technically has high quality Omron switches but only on left/right click, the middle click and the rest use crappy little tactile switches that last about 6 months before I need to replace them.

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I’ve got a G502 Hero. I’d heard lots of complaints about the line after buying it but I haven’t had any issues despite having it for a good few years now. I also had a M305 for something like a decade. A very simple little thing but lasted a long time. I replaced the switches for higher grade switches than factory and only replaced it because the rocker mounting for the mouse wheel tilt snapped, which I’m pretty certain was caused by a house move than any lack of quality.

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You can get rugged or smooth.

Lots of expensive brands prioritize smooth because their buyers will buy often and not care about resale or cost of new.

A Toyota Hilux and a Range Rover aren’t really made with the same priorities, even though both could go offroading.

Someone that buys a brand new off the lot beamer likely isn’t planning to still own it 120,000 miles later. Probably not even three years later.

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Doesn’t mean we should open a revolving door to the scrap heap. Also this perception of pick one is extremely false. It’s more than possible to have a perfectly smooth transmission than can be maintained. Fill and drain plugs don’t effect any of the internals so it’s little more than self-sabotage (see: planned obsolence) to make it impossible to perform basic maintenance. Besides, no trans is going to remain smooth if the fluid isn’t replaced frequently.

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If we were only talking about a transmission sure

I don’t how anyone would think that’s what I meant. But here you are.

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A good mouse already lasts practically forever. I have been using the same MS Trackball Optical since 2002, original switches, new bearings after 15 years. As long as it directly translates XY motion and clicks in real space to XY motion and clicks in screen space the device is feature complete, no more value can be added via subscription service.

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