cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18302836
I’m just picturing that robot from Star Trek (the one thinking about “this sentence is false”) going “huh” and then blowing up…
It’s intentional and pointing out the absurdness of what the TERFs are saying.
Oooooohhhhhhh I see I get it now
Degender most sports and separate by weight class. Perfect? No. Solves this idiotic mess of a worldwide scandal? Yes.
Now, about all the doping from Russia and China…
This doesn’t work as out of a man and woman of the same weight the man will still be stronger on average. Women have a higher body fat percentage, and less muscle in their upper body simply because they have less testosterone. You would probably have to use testosterone as a way of categorizing people in sport. It sucks but there is no other fair way I can see.
There is no “fair”. You can’t have it. Tall people usually win in basketball. Narrow builds do better in marathons. People older for their age bracket (as kids) are more likely to enter the NHL (growing up they’re bigger so they get more playing time). So yeah, whatever you do, most of us are starting with a big disadvantage at any sport, even if we put in the same effort our whole lives.
That’s life. The question is how to make rules knowing all of that.
You are quite right. Some of the great swimmers for example have unusually long arms compared to their height. Competitive sports at the level we do it now can never be fair. It arguably shouldn’t get nearly as much attention. I would argue that we should be pushing more people to do casual sports, rather than just sitting and watching spectator sports.
I literally said it wasn’t a perfect solution, just that it would solve these silly gender scandals. I stand by it.
It would solve one gender scandal. The next one would be people complaining that there are no women in sports anymore.
And then we’d circle back around and have to segregate the genders in sports to give women a chance to compete.
And then when a woman stands out in her field, they’d start accusing her again of being a man.
A little late, but I think I have a reasonable solution to the genderless weight class classification.
Measuring the hit force of athletes for sports like boxing could work. Not sure how viable that is in real world applications, with human nature and all, but it seems reasonable to me. If the issue is men on average hit harder than women of similar builds, why not just classify by hit force instead?
Even with the same muscle mass, it appears men might be stronger in the upper body compared to women (“A Comparison between Male and Female Athletes in Relative Strength and Power Performances”, Sandro Bartolomei, et al. ) so I’m not sure checking for any one single variable would make things fair.
that’s gotta be satire
There is zero chance it is satire. No chance at all. No possible way it could be satire. Zilch, zero, zip.
Unpossible.
Wow, it’s almost like trying to measure and codify man- and womanhood is inherently dangerous and phobic, even to cisgendered people who don’t meet the nebulous standards set by bigots who are obsessed with other people’s genitals, and we should maybe just stop doing that and let people identify themselves however they want?
Just a thought.
