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Khaleesi, 6, a passport was denied — with officials telling her she needed Warner Brothers’ approval because it owns the name’s trademark.

Typical capitalist brain rot.

Shouldn’t they also use the same bullshit excuse when issuing an ID card? At least make the dumb rules consistent.

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By this logic, everyone named Mickey should be paying Disney a royalty…

Wait shit retract delete delete DISNEY I DID JOT SAY ANYTHING DONT GET ANY FUCKING IDEAS NOW.

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Mickey is a real name, though. It wasn’t invented by Disney.

Not that their lawyers would care lmao

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Yeah if anyone ever expected copyright law or lawyers to be even remotely logical or sane, they’ve got another thing coming to them…

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7 points

Disney just announced a new IP, Empire of Love. No relation I’m sure.

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OH FUUUUUUUUUU-

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Aren’t they aware that the TV series is based on a book series…? If anyone owns the name it’d be George R.R. Martin…

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Did he trademark it? Did he sign that away when HBO did the TV series?

Not that it matters for a passport. But it’s entirely likely a media company owns the trademark for a book character rather than the author.

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I think it would be more likely that grrm licensed the trademark and IP to HBO/Discovery rather than sell it. But I don’t actually know

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Does the WB even own that trademark? You have to manually apply for each one. Also, trademarks are specific to commercial operations and two companies are allowed to share if they aren’t in the same business. I don’t think trademark laws even apply here.

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Shouldn’t they also use the same bullshit excuse when issuing an ID card? At least make the dumb rules consistent.

To be fair, ID cards aren’t common in the UK and passports are very common. This is quite probably the first time she’s applied for any form of ID. Not agreeing with it, just saying.

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The Passport Office reportedly later called Lucy to apologize for the error.

They screwed up, and have admitted they screwed up. Did nobody read the article?

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13 points

I got half way before the pop-ups became too much.

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2 points

Holy shit you weren’t kidding. And I’m on Firefox Focus behind a PiHole with a multi-million blocklist.

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6 points

Fair enough.

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7 points

I still believe her actual name was Hodor.

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People in this thread frothing at the mouth because it’s a title, not a name, must have forgotten about Caesar. And that it doesn’t matter - people call their kids all kinds of weird shit.

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You mean Gaius Julius Caesar? Caesar was his last name, aka family name.

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His family name was Julius (because he was from the family of the Iulii). Caesar was a title and since Augustus became part of the name when the position was taken up.

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Well, technically both Julius and Caesar were his last names, Caesar was an extra name of unknown origin in his family branch. Since him it became a title.

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I stand corrected, thanks

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Caesar was a title

Caesar became a title after the collapse of the Republic, largely because the Augustine line carried it forward as proof of legitimacy. There was no position of “Caeser” within the Roman Republic, just a family name dating back to Julius Caeser’s great-grandfather.

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Why is this getting downvoted? Its absolutely correct.

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You named your daughter after a tv/book character famous for getting naked, railed, being a bit nuts, and losing a war? I guess she OG owned some dragons for a while. Destined to be bad ass destroy all mega lizards before season 8 destroyed an entire series.

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The idiocy of naming your kid Khaleesi aside, the UK just decided that a corporation can own your name and prevent you from enjoying the rights of your citizenship.

That’s pretty fucked.

Edit - Apparently they did backtrack. But it’s still amazing that anyone even thought that was a thing.

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The Passport Office reportedly later called Lucy to apologize for the error.

No, they can’t. That’s not how copyright works. Read the damn article.

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But how can I be outraged then?

I am glad to hear they’re not officially taking corporate feudalism for a ride.

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Khaleesi is a nice name aside from the fact that I think it’s a title…

Khaleesi is a title, not a name. In the fictional world of “Game of Thrones,” it means “queen” in the Dothraki language and is given to the wife of a Khal, the leader of a Dothraki tribe. The character Daenerys Targaryen is often referred to as Khaleesi. - chat gpt

Ya… It’s a title.

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There are literally people named “Princess”. Not that I think that does wonders for their life either.

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I’ve had students named Happy, Classic, Diamonds, Epiphany, Scorpio, you name it. I wouldn’t even cock my head to the side with a Khaleesi on my roll sheet at this point.

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4 points

Classic? Who in the right mind!

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5 points

You name it is the weirdest of them all.

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2 points

You know the Gilmores?

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4 points

A-aron?

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I once met a female stripper named Adonis.

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I dated a girl named Mercedes.

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8 points

Mercedes is actually an old Spanish name too though.

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Mercedes was the name of Emil Jellinek’s daughter, Emil has the idea to develop sports cars, he designed and commissioned cars from an engineering company and named the model-line after her.

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Regina, Adelina, Cesare, surely there are other names.

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Bread.

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7 points

Zoltan, Rex.

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Zoltan?

Isn’t that a race in FTL?

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Rex ~ Regina, but thanks for Zoltan, made me remember Basil by association.

EDIT: And Despina. EDIT2: There don’t seem to be many people called Despot, but Tiran (not Tigran) is a name one can sometimes encounter among Armenians.

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“queen” in Lojban is “nolraitruti’u.”

https://mw.lojban.org/papri/me_lu_ju'i_lobypli_li'u_18_moi

😁🙂

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3 points

Are you saying they should just use lojban?

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Presumably they won’t get sued by IP (“intellectual property”) trolls.

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It seems that there is only two restrictions in the UK on naming a child at birth. That is that it must fit on a single line on the birth certificate and not contain numeric characters except things like ii to refer to the second.

If you want to change your name later in life there is a lot of restrictions but as far as I know copyright enforcement is still not one. You can find a list here if you are interested.

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The idiocy of naming your kid Khaleesi aside

It’s nice sounding as a name though, I wouldn’t be in a rush to condemn someone for it. Now when it’s the 5th “unique” spelling of Madison that starts to get a little ridiculous.

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8 points

It’s a nice sounding name if you don’t know where it comes from. Considering how well known Game of Thrones is it sounds like “I’m sorry your parents are idiots.”

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Fair point!

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There should be a list of approved names for children.

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No.

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Who decides what goes on that list?

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In a perfect world, me. But it would probably be better if there was a body of 100 or so individuals of diverse backgrounds to make sure we aren’t excluding names for cultural reasons. Names could be submitted for approval. To weed out the Everleighs, the Sexiannas, the Khaleesis. And any names Jamie Oliver would pick.

I don’t know why people think it is acceptable to treat names like an opportunity for creativity, or fun. Names are serious business. And they aren’t a medium for self expression. If I name my dog after a type of pasta, who cares? But imagine having to give someone a business card with “Fusilli Feet” on it. I love Waterworld, but my kid will never have to put down “Mariner Feet” on a resume. My kid is not an extension of me, or my interests.

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The only issue here is that it means no one would ever be able to come up with new names. Like not even respectable sounding ones. Even odd sounding family names would be out. The price of freedom is that occasionally some poor kid gets named Optimus Prime von Hammerpants

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We have that in my country, kinda. Any common name in the calendar can be chosen automatically. Any other name must be approved and you must prove that it’s a real name somewhere (used significantly, one person with a weird name wouldn’t count).

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Yeah I hear that’s worked out really well in North Korea 🤣

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