cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18340810

In a contentious and misleading post on social media, JD Vance, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, launched an attack on Vice President Kamala Harris’s support for LGBTQ+ inclusivity. Vance falsely accused Algerian Olympic boxer Imane Khelif of being transgender, causing widespread condemnation and backlash from human rights advocates.

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It’s important to note the reason all this kicked off is a Russian boxing organization (that let her fight multiple times) disqualified her after she beat an undefeated rising Russian star, and won’t disclose what test they accuse her of failing.

But they have said it wasn’t the testosterone test.

So it’s not surprising Republicans immediately ran with it

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And, they DQed her in a way that erased her win, making that Russian boxer still undefeated on the record.

But yeah, they claimed she failed a test, but won’t reveal who did it, or the methodology used, meaning it’s not replicable and thus NOT GOOD SCIENCE.

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It was made up in the first place anyways. Russia has 0 credibility on the national stage. If a Russian institute announced that the sky was blue, I’d go out to check. He should be ashamed citing their bullshit, but I suspect that’s an emotion he’s incapable of.

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It’s actually worse. They said “it wasn’t the Testosterone test” when the DQ was announced in October, then yesterday said “it was the Testosterone test, or she has XY karyotype” depending on whichever one of the speakers you believe.

Fool me once, your fault. Twice? I’m an idiot.

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It’s not a Russian organization, it’s the IBA - which is the premier amateur boxing organization/confederation, which is currently headed by a Russian national.

And his time in office has been a smashing success, such as when the IOC withdrew their recognition of the IBA, which removed the IBA from any involvement/participation in Olympic Boxing.

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It’s not a Russian organization,

It wasn’t a Russian organization…

But most of it’s operations have been moved to Russia, and their sole sponsor is a Russian company…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boxing_Association#2023–present

The guy has even canceled elections to replace him. By now it’s essentially a kidnapped organization, literally nothing prior to 2023 matters anymore. It is only the IBA still in name only.

Like the old NRA takeover in the 70s.

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It’s important to note the reason all this kicked off is a Russian boxing organization

That is what I was responding to. Your flippant dismissal of what the IBA actually is: a highly relevant intentional sporting organization for boxing, which is still true despite their current situation.

Shit on them for everything you laid out, their farsical antics this week, blatant corruption, or any other number of issues, but don’t intentionally mislead and mischaracterize them to an audience that most likely largely ignorant of amateur boxing or combat sports in general. Or at least, that is assuming as there are no active combat sports communities on Lemmy that I have seen, be it MMA, boxing, kick boxing, etc.

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Always blame Russia, even when it is just your old white supremacy that is prevalent in Europe and North America. Do you think the Russians were the reason for the French occupation of Algeria that resulted in millions dead?

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Do I think Russians cheat at international sports? Yes.

What the fuck are you going on about with that other shit?

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You are blaming Russia for the West’s long tradition of white supremacy and racism. Algeria only freed itself from brutal French rule in 1962. Bigotry towards Algerians and North Africans is engrained in France and across Europe.

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The tests and results are confidential. Stop making a Russian conspiracy out of this. Lame and boring.

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21 points

Confidential and yet they blasted it all over the world?

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They were mentioned in an interview. People say things they shouldnt all the time.

Conspiracy theories are the best way to make yourself look silly.

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Shame Vance turned his back on the LGBTQ+. Mamaw tried her best

“I’ll never forget the time I convinced myself that I was gay. I was eight or nine, maybe younger, and I stumbled upon a broadcast by some fire-and-brimstone preacher. The man spoke about the evils of homosexuals, how they had infiltrated our society, and how they were all destined for hell absent some serious repenting. At the time, the only thing I knew about gay men was that they preferred men to women. This described me perfectly: I disliked girls, and my best friend in the world was my buddy Bill. Oh no, I’m going to hell.”

When he brought up the issue with his grandmother — known to Vance as “Mamaw” — she replied bluntly: “Don’t be a fucking idiot, how would you know that you’re gay?”

When Vance explained his reasoning, she laughed.

“JD, do you want to suck dicks?” she said, according to the book.

The young Vance, apparently “flabbergasted,” said: “Of course not!”

“Then you’re not gay. And even if you did want to suck dicks, that would be okay,” she replied. “God would still love you.”

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🤣 Is this story true? If so, respect for Granny.

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7 points

He seriously wrote it in his book. No telling if it is actually true or not

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That’s right, conservatives want a candidate for the most powerful position on earth to worry about hypothetical nonsensical situations where men will go through years of medical and psychological treatments just to punch women in the face.

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Tbf I wouldn’t mind going through years of medical and psychological treatments if it meant I was allowed to punch whoever I wanted to in the face. Not for sports or for transgender reasons, just for fun. Turn me into a weapon please.

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6 points

Just try it the other way. Random face punching today, years of medical and psychological treatment later!

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Amygdala too big and cerebrum too small

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5 points

Why would any man go through chemical castration to punch a woman in the face when he can just become a conservative politician?

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No, they want us to fight over this culture war bullshit so we don’t pay attention to what they’re doing. Namely, robbing us blind via tax cuts and the dismantling of social safety nets.

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29 points

When Algeria is too woke for you, you should really reconsider things.

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25 points

Hm. That’s weird.

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