Mexico’s supreme court has decriminalized abortion across the country, two years after ruling that abortion was not a crime in one northern state.

That earlier ruling had set off a grinding process of decriminalizing abortion state by state. Last week, the central state of Aguascalientes became the 12th state to decriminalize the procedure. Judges in states that still criminalize abortion will have to take account of the top court’s ruling.

The supreme court wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, that it had decided that “the legal system that criminalized abortion in the Federal Penal Code is unconstitutional, [because] it violates the human rights of women and people with the ability to gestate.”

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Pretty crazy. Mexico has traditionally been VERY catholic. The fact that it has become more progressive than the US on women’s rights really speaks volumes about how terrible the US has become.

I suspect a LOT of abortions happening down in the west texas town of el paso.

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Pretty crazy. Mexico has traditionally been VERY catholic. The fact that it has become more progressive than the US on women’s rights really speaks volumes about how terrible the US has become.

In some ways it might be about sending a clear signal that they arent interested in following the political or cultural leadership of the US.

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Fuck. You mean trump actually made [North] America great again?

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Mexico is finally gonna pay for the wall. The wall to keep fleeing Americans out of Mexico.

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Nonono, in SPITE of! 😆

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They also legalized same sex marriage a while ago. Yes they are religious but they are not “bible belt fundamentalists”… there is also universal healthcare. Did you know several American doctors go study there and just come back to pass the exams? Mexico had it’s problems but it’s not as bad as they make it seem here. Most immigrants that come here are at the bottom of the barrel of the economical scale.

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It’s not all Americans, it’s mostly trash Americans who have nothing else to be proud of except having fallen out of the hole of someone who also happened to be born here.

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It seems even the pope is more progressive than American right now.

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Legitimately wild for the Pope to point blank call the US regressive.

Not out of hypocrisy (though, yeah - solidarity with survivors and the colonised) - but because he was actually really justified in what he said to reach that.

Wild. Absolutely wild. The US is so comically bad faith a society even the pope can eloquate why it’s awful.

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Because like 40% of our people are literally insane and living in a different reality

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It boggles my minds that in the USA the catholics are considered the reasonable christians.

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The pope doesn’t do shit agains his organisations centuries long paedophilia problem.

Not even the US is that bad.

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You don’t have to literally be a pedophile to be truly truly terrible, there’s lots of ways to be that.

That is to say, that does not excuse anyone. “At least we didn’t fuck children” is not a defense or an excuse. The deeper right wing in the US still utter scum that needs to be shown the door and then have a fence built after them (and make them pay for it!) to make sure they don’t come back. Independent of whether the vatican state tried to cover up the church’s massive and systemic pedophilia.

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The sbc has a vastly worse pedophilia problem, has for decades, but they can cover it up well because they drive the girls to suicide because nobody would ever believe a good man like their daddy touched them there.

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Well, most Americans are progressive on the issues, including abortion, but due to absurd things like the Electoral College, and the way our power is distributed through states and the way in which rural areas have much more influence than they should, conservatives are given way too much power in relation to their numbers.

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But without that, the majority would be tyrants!

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But… But democracy. And the land of the free! Say it ain’t so…

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Oh please, if we didn’t have the electoral college the south wouldn’t be able to serve as the moral compass of the country and couldn’t guide us away from such evils as slavery and racism.

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Mexico’s constitution always allowed for abortions in cases of rape or danger to the mother or fetus.

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Catholics might be against abortion, but they are no where near as vocal as some other Christian sects in the US.

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Also the Catholic church believed abortions were fine until ~5 months for a long time.

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That’s absolutely not true, it was just viewed as a sexual sin before. The catholic church has been against abortion since the 1500s, arguably you could even say it goes back to the early 600s when they tried to find ways to distance themselves from pagans. It wasn’t until the late 1960s when public opinion changed about it being a sin against taking life, then I believe in the 70s the Pope made a public statement, which made it canonical.

As a random side note, St. Thomas of Aquinas take on fetal status was kind of interesting. He viewed a fetus as having 3 states or “souls”; a vegetative soul, an animal soul, and finally a rational soul once the body was completely developed.

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did you fall in love with a Mexican girl?

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…people with the ability to gestate.

Got that 1-2 punch of abortion progress and inclusive language.

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People that can’t gestate rarely need abortions.

…rarely.

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Well there are some days I’d like to abort my neighbor.

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If that doesn’t work, retry and eventually ignore.

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So far that record is 1/0 for can’t gestate/ got abortion

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Something to do with things that mostly come out at night

… mostly.

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Edit: shit, I thought this was the other comment about Texas towns arresting people trying to get abortions just as they were driving through.

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Texas should start dusting off their pride flags if they are discouraging men and women from having sex, lmao.

(Not how sexuality works, of course, but it makes me chuckle at the amazing irony of the situation, particularly in light of conspiracy theories like the great replacement and all that nonsense.)

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so… women?

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traaaaaaaaaannnnnnns

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Meanwhile in America red state boarder towns (boarder to blue or another country.) are making laws to stop every women traveling towards an abortion state.

https://abc13.com/texas-abortion-law-highways-new-battleground-in-care-what-is-the/13740276/

That’s right, straight up Handmaid’s Tale shit!

“Under his eye.”

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God, I’m so glad I moved out of a shithole state before things went completely off the rails.

At some point, I’m sure people will get tired of constant butthole inspections in these states and will go back to being chill and telling their lazy-ass politicians to focus on stuff that actually matters, instead of whatever distraction this is.

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Would love if the federal govt just removes roads and highway funding to states that allow or do not stop this from occurring. The federal interstate program should be just that.

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I’m aware of the recent developments in that regard, jfc the whole thing is so fucked up. That and the human trafficking of immigrants to other states. What the fuck is wrong with those states?

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How would they even know?

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Makes sense. Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt is their modus operandi.

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Did y’all know that Mexico also has a form of universal healthcare. Pretty soon the flow of illegal immigrants might start going the other way.

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Lot of folks hop the border for a bit for the far cheaper dental care down there.

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I’ve heard of a lot of people doing this. Pretty bad when driving to an entire other country for dental care is cheaper.

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Pretty sure Palin admitted to her family hopping the border for cheaper healthcare in Canada.

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Driving? Hell I had a coworker who would fly there from Alaska to get dental work done and even with his week long hotel stay while he recuperated still saved thousands of dollars

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I’ve done this with my wife. It saved us thousands of dollars. And the place was very clean and professional.

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There is already a good amount of medical tourism to Mexico from the US.

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Like how Utahans were buying insulin from Mexico because it was something like 1/100 the price.

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Given how the population of Utah votes that makes them hypocritical

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That said, the entire mexican public health service system is absolute shit, so much so that the president acknowleged it as recently a last year.

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so much so that the president acknowleged it

Acknowledging it is the first step to improving it. We have Republicans who have the gall to claim that we have the best healthcare in the world.

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Completely agree. The fact they’re restructuring and allocating funds at least seems to suggest that they’re taking it seriously, and even if it’s baby steps, it’s something

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Actually… No

The facilities could use some work, yeah, red tape and waiting times are terrible, for sure, medicines availability, thanks for this president have been inconsistent as of late, yes

But… thanks to the perks offered in the job, many of the best doctors and surgeons treat there, the ones that treat also in the expensive hospital are treating in the IMSS (name of the service), so yeah, great surgeons for free if you are willing to go through the long bureaucratic process.

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I’ve indeed heard frequently that the best practitioners are found in the IMSS, although in my own experience, whether you have a good experience with the medical professionals and procedures is basically a coin toss, unless you have connections and are able to ask for someone in particular, or personally know one of the practitioners.

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Ah.

So white ladies are going to start fleeing across the border to get abortions that they can’t get in the States.

Conservatives really ARE trying to bring us back to the 1950s, aren’t they?

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Let them bring back the 1950s tax rate first

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I mean, that’s kind of their whole shtick lol

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In Europe we are back to the 1920s, so the great depression and another world war are still to come. You should be glad they are trying to bring you only as back as 1950s 🤣🤣🤣

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How is Europe back to 1920s?

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Nationalism and far right movements are on the surge everywhere (except in Spain where the memory of dictatorship is still relatively fresh, just a generation ago).

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