Ads upon ads upon ads

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Enshittification spares no one.

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Happens when you don’t have competition. (Except to steam seemingly)

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The difference is that Valve is privately owned. They don’t have to please a board of shareholders who want to see the platform milked for the slightest increase in profit margins.

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Bingo. Enshittification is mostly confined to companies that have gone public or whose sole aspiration is to do so quickly.

It shifts responsibility from satisfying customers/users to satisfying shareholders (who are never satisfied).

You can build the perfect product and ride a gravy train as a private company in relative perpetuity. As a corporation, you’re just going to strive for perpetually increasing profits on a quarterly basis with no real care or focus past that

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26 points

We need more companies like that, then.

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14 points

So you’re telling me that I can generate stable revenue if I work on my product and try to satisfy customers? Sounds kinda radical… who do we even screw over to get the money??

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This isn’t entirely accurate. If Valve were a public company, the enshittification factor would increase significantly. The reason they’re great now is because the current board is the original founders who are passionate about their business, and actually care.

Private or not, once Gabe and the other old farts die, Valve will enshittificate. That’s almost guaranteed.

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36 points

Steam has some competition, its just that said competition never took off because Steam is so much better.

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(Except to steam seemingly)

For now. I’m curious what’ll happen when Gabe eventually retires.

We also can’t ignore the fact that the Steam Marketplace is a hellhole and the origin of a lot of today’s microtransaction hell.

If you buy all your games on one platform then you’re thoroughly fucked if it turns heel.

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We all know the answer to this. There will be a hundred threads with thousands of comments with people saying it’s not bad, the company promised x and y and we should be cautiously optimistic, but in the end it always ends the same way.

Exactly the same thing happens with IBM buying Red Hat. No shortage of articles talking about how this will be good for Red Hat and the entire open source community but of course last month they started the enshitification process that will now March on relentlessly. Even now there are defenders of red hat, talking about how it’s not that bad and there are workarounds, but in the end they fail to see this is just the first step.

Once started on this path, the rule is always enshitification, any exceptions are exceedingly rare. If steam ever gets bought/sold it will follow the same path and it’s defenders will stay by its side until it looks like the screen shot above.

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3 points

The point still stands though, you can easily filter out anything you don’t want to see.

But I doubt the same would apply if it was owned by shareholders.

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12 points

“the play store is shit now!”

The play store was always shit.

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10 points

Sure it does, but only those who have a zero-tolerance policy against using proprietary software. In the long run, Free Software is the only kind that can be relied upon not to betray you.

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I agree, free software is the only thing that’s sure to not get worse over time. I took way too long to realize, now I have a shitload of stuff to migrate. I already ditched microsoft, but that google account is a real bitch to replace.

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128 points

A single row of ads would be ok, but having this many plus an ad showing up first, where the search results should be… Oof

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40 points

No it wouldn’t. Phones aren’t cheap.

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7 points

The Android licence is free and the Play Store infrastructure has to support tens of millions of devices.

I’m not saying this is an acceptable level, but Samsung ain’t putting a dollar toward Google running the store, in fact, they’d much prefer to run and maintain their own.

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That’s not true. Phone manufacturers need to pay if they want to include Google Play in their devices, it’s not free. It can cost as much as $40 per device.

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10 points

I guess hoovering up all your data ain’t enough.

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I don’t even get why having the store on more devices is supposed to “cost” google anything.

It’s a store. They get a cut from every transaction. Why wouldn’t they want it to be on everything?

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7 points

They can be. I bought a Galaxy s22 with a broken screen for $150, and my carrier just gave me an $1100 credit for it on a new iphone. I don’t need an iPhone, and I will be selling it to get yet another cheap phone and pocketing the money, but it goes to show just how much phones do not cost to the people producing them

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3 points

Dam that’s a hilarious life hack lol.

I’m on a 12 Pro with no intentions of upgrading but when I go to I’m gonna try and find a new broken flagship to turn in too lmao.

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1 point

They shouldn’t rely on ads to make money back on a phone IMHO.

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17 points

I don’t think ads showing something related to what I’m looking for are bad in and if themselves. I want to find related content, the problem is that these are often not in any way related to what I’m looking for. It’s just a list of who paid to be listed there.

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10 points

i dont even touch the galaxy store unless i absolutely have to, something about it just feels so… off?

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5 points

There are a handful of customisation apps that are only available through the Galaxy store. The ones I use are all Samsung official apps, but the poorly written descriptions on the install pages definitely make me uncomfortable.

It’s like they only intended the apps for their Korean users, and ran the text through Google translate for the English versions.

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On the App Store, it’s also under the “essentials” section. The “Must-have iPhone apps”. Lmfao. I hate that state of technology in 2023. Burn it all down.

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4 points

What would you expect the algorithm to be if not to recommend the apps installed and used the most on their platform?

I don’t use TikTok or FB, but it’s hard to blame them for suggesting apps that they have concrete usage data on saying they are the most used.

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71 points

Just leaving this here: Aurora Store

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Aside of the lack of ads, I now depend on Aurora Store for batch app updates because the cocksuckers at Google Play have allowed devs to force app version updates even when you have disabled automatic updates for that specific app.

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2 points

IDK… I root all of my devices ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Ok this is actually pretty cool. So I gave this a try and what I found in the first few mins of using it:

  • you can login anonymously or with your own Google account (anonymous logs you into one of their shared Gmail accounts which personally I don’t like the idea of)
  • it manages all existing apps too, so you can use it as a drop in replacement for the play store.
  • Updates aren’t as well, there doesn’t appear to be a background update option as android requires you to confirm if you wish to install the update for each app.

Overall solid app. I don’t spend a lot of time in the PlayStore so the ads themselves don’t bother me. The moment though I begin getting pop up ads / notifications I’ll be jumping to this full time though

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10 points

Just be careful when using your own google account on Aurora Store. There are reports of people getting their account banned by google. Do not use an important google account there.

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6 points

Another cool feature is you can spoof your device’s name. This can allow you to install apps that daddy Google does not approve of for your device.

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5 points

What is the difference with F-Droid?

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22 points

F-Droid has special FOSS Apps only. Aurora Store delivers the same Apps like Play Store.

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19 points

It’s an alternative client to the Play Store. It does not access F-Droid repos.

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7 points

Others answered you, but aurora also has an F-Droid replacement called Aurora Droid.

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2 points

Aurora store is basically anonymous access to the official Google Play store.

You can download any app because unlike the Google Play store Aurora doesn’t send your phones hardware ID, so if for example your phone is rooted you can get the Disney Plus app anyway.

Fdroid is an alternate app store. They have different things than the Google Play store. They respect your privacy and will let you download any app that is ever been uploaded to them, Even old versions of an app.

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Um … can I sign in with my google account?

It appears that I can, wonderful.

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64 points

Thanks to Lemmy, my phone went full FOSS. Always go full FOSS.

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It’s great that you can’t unlock the bootloader to install graphene on carrier bought devices 👍

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24 points

In Canada, carriers are required to only sell unlocked phones for the past several years.

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If I understand correctly, carrier locking is different from Bootloader locking. One implies freedom to use the device on any provider network, while the other is for installing a custom ROM. A Samsung flagship can be bought unlocked by paying full price, but you cannot unlock the bootloader and install Graphene, for instance.

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Luckily, in 'murica, corporations can freak you over however they like 😎

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4 points

Can unlock it on my machine 😎

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3 points

Or samsung devices

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Can’t on a pixel because this phone is carrier locked.

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