Not even the fun kind of X. Cโmon, iPad kids!
Letโs introduce a national digital id to stop the kids accessing shit online. And to ensure that we need to make it linked to ur government id.
Edit: spelling
Yeah thereโs no way that could go wrong or be exploited by unscrupulous actors. Maybe parents should actually parent their kids? Extreme, I know.
Letโs not be pieces of shit using โfor the kidsโ to destroy basic privacy rights online.
But think of the children they must be protected we canโt possibly expect parents to be responsible so the government must step in to ensure their safety.
So every person can be identified on whatever sites they do whatever they post.
Thatโs China. Not America
You could very easily build the system to perform the age check without logging it to the userโs ID since the check only needs to be performed once to create an account and just block anyone without one from seeing any of the content.
Estonia has digital ID based services and they arenโt China. In fact China despises them because theyโve made the cutting edge in digital public services without having to compromise citizen privacy, which makes China look even worse for going out of their way to invade citizen privacy when it isnโt even necessary to offer the same safety measures and services.
What about we introduce more control from teachers and parents about what devices kids have access to, and give them some supervision too while weโre at it?
That will never work. The people canโt be trusted they must be controlled with an iron fist of justice and glory.
So people canโt be trusted, but you want to give control of everything to one person/group? Sounds contradictory to me.
I propose we take all parents, line them up, and start slapping them in the face until they stop being so fucking stupid.
Alternatively, and more realistically, we accept that gen z and gen alpha are just lost causes and massively invest in schools so maybe in a couple of generations we can break the cycle of stupidity.
Lol as if these generations are doing anything different than they were doing before. Kids have always lied about their age to do adult things. Not saying itโs healthy, just like it wasnโt healthy for kids to get their older brother to buy cigs, but itโs not a unique problem and these generations are far from a โlost causeโ.
Would you give your kids blank plane tickets for them to go anywhere in the world alone ?
I guess not, then donโt give them a internet connected device without surveillance. Itโs YOUR responsibility to keep YOUR kids safe not mine. I donโt want to be forced to give MY ID online for YOUR kids to be loose on the internet as much as I donโt want to see your kids roaming alone anywhere they feel like.
I found it interesting to see where Roblox falls off the chart.
You should have to actually validate your age to use social media and you should be required to be 18.
You have to go somewhere to register in person and then you have to do Face ID to log in.
Big businesses can afford thatโฆ Will ya let smaller ones or hobbyists off the hook?
I ainโt giving out my home address like itโs a passport boarder crossing. How do I tell if the faceID given over the internet is from that person? Could be a dog.
Bet youโre fine with using government IDs for porn sites as well. ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
The internet was better when everyone was just a random username and people didnโt use their real names for everything.
Lmao, the article is literally talking about children under the age of 10
It doesnโt have to (and shouldnโt) be the social media company gathering that information but a third party verification system that doesnโt save anything, just validates the age using a driverโs license/form of ID. We can do this (we do it for military and veterans so companies can give them discounts) in the US already.
I can understand not wanting to give social media too much data on you, but honestly they probably already have it already. Especially on platforms like Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.
If weโre supposed to be protecting children (with all these stupid laws anyway), then letโs actually do that instead of just pretending all these stupid restrictions we currently have actually work.
No, I donโt think the cutoff should be 18 either but a parent or guardian being forced to validate a 14 year oldโs account for them might actually force them to engage with what their kid is doing online which I would consider a win.
It doesnโt have to (and shouldnโt) be the social media company gathering that information but a third party verification system that doesnโt save anything, just validates the age using a driverโs license/form of ID. We can do this (we do it for military and veterans so companies can give them discounts) in the US already.
Unless you have extremely strong laws around personal information, the financial incentive for any 3rd party to collect and sell that information will be too strong.
And if your 3rd party verifier is the government, then there will be equally strong pressure from law enforcement to collect that information.
The age is 13 for coppa and they are required to get their parents permission already. Also are people in other countries supposed to have a US ID now? If it isnโt saved, couldnโt you just copy your parentโs ID while they arenโt looking? This doesnโt solve anything.
Nah I donโt want corpos to have even more information on me than they already have.
Itโs time for people to finally accept again that you canโt shield kids from anything, especially if it seems forbidden and interesting.
Also if you really wanted to pick a verification age you would have to go with 25+. 18 years old are just legal 17 years old and 20 years are barely out of school and donโt have any experience about anything. 30+ years are stuck in the system and 65+ simply donโt care anymore.
Actually raise the verification age to 99+. No wait just ban social media for everyone, it sucks and is unhealthy, go tough grass or something.
So donโt have an age restriction for tobacco, or alcohol or strip clubs either cuz you canโt shield kids from anything? Got it.
Just dont give internet connected devices to kids and your problems are solved. I would agree with company being forced to verify the age of a person before signing a internet contract. Donโt give open access to internet to kids itโs just like sending them anywhere in the world alone.
Nice strawman you got there, but we werenโt talking about those topics.
The topic was social media, try to keep up.
No I donโt think we should give corpos access to even more identifying info about us. You have a kid YOU have the responytobtake care of them not me. If you believe a kid should be able to go on the internet without proper surveillance itโs on you if something happens to that kid not me. I would not give my kids a blank plane ticket to go anywhere they want in the world without surveillance, itโs the same for the internet. Itโs not my responsibility to secure your kid itโs yours.
U donโt have to do anything unless u work for the agency that is verifying age. Would you say the same about school shooters? Not your problem. Up to parents to stop their kids. Unfortunately, we allow anybody to create life as there are a lot of bad parents.
Your argument does not make sense. I defend my kid from school shooting by not living in the States. Donโt give guns to deranged people and most of your problems with school shooting is solved.
I do not have to give my ID when I walk around a school.
Letting a kid roam on the internet is more like giving them blank plane tickets than sending them to school.
I mean itโs run by the biggest kid, so I guess itโs understandable that they at least want to check out what their like-minded fellow is doing over there.
I hope they turn away in disgust.
