geteilt von: https://feddit.org/post/2071604

This is your somewhat regularly scheduled Stop Killing Games update.

Stop Killing Games is an European Citizens Initiative aiming to keep games playable even after their developers and publishers have stopped supporting it.

Germany has hit the threshold sometime yesterday evening. France has also started to catch up. They are still below 50% but there growth over the last couple of days has been the biggest. Netherlands and Denmark are still in the low 90s.

The milestone comes on the eve of this years Gamescom in Cologne, Germany which is set to kick off today. SKG is not going to have an official presence there. (I’ve checked with the organisers) But if you are attending and want to help spread the word I’m happy to share official marketing material, either in the form of flyers or the files for flyers, so you can print your own. They come in both German and English. If you want some, send me a DM.

Relevant links:

2 points

Pirate Software, a former Blizzard and Amazon Games dev, did a YouTube video on this recently with some fair criticisms of the initiative. It’s worth a watch.

https://youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y?si=HKxOkeovGNeMv0gE

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7 points

It seems to me that his problem with it boils down to the odd case of someone trying to ruin an online game to make the developer abandon it and then host it themselves to make money from it. This would only be a problem with free or very cheap online games because to have bots to disrupt the game you would have to buy an account for each of these bots. That would become very expensive very quickly.

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19 points

Thor is a grifter who just doesn’t want his live service investments impacted. (Rivals of Aether) https://medium.com/illumination-gaming/ludwig-thor-team-up-to-launch-offbrand-games-42ee230d7cb1

Thor shows the opposite sentiment when talking with Tim Bender (Manor Lords) https://streamable.com/339l26 .

The development credit to his name is one undertale clone that has been in development for 7~ years, and QA for blizzard. He should NOT be treated as an authority on this.

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This is so dumb. Not the petition itself, but the way you’re going about it.

You actively antagonise people who are annoyed to hell and back at having to go look for the reason behind the petition. You even had one guy wondering if it was about banning violent games.

All because you’re too lazy to put it in the description. Way to shoot your petition in the foot. One line about “keeping games playable” without an explanation of the root cause won’t make people join your petition 🙄🙄🙄.

Not only that, but this could now be related to actual spam given how often you’re reposting it. E#: just looked, you made eight posts in two weeks. What in the world are you expecting to change by repeating the same thing over and over?

Instead of getting the impact you were going for (rightfully, since you explained jack shit), you’re now spamming to get quantity over quality. Idiotic.

Addition of a few sources to show you how much you fucked up in your presentation of the petition:

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6 points

8 posts in 2 weeks? That’s nothing 🤣 People here make 8 posts in a day.

Also what’s up with all the aggression? Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Stub your toe against something?

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18 points

What are you talking about? o.0

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7 points

Look at their post history. They are a massive troll.

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6 points

Yup, had a peek after I got the response, hence me not engaging further. Thanks for the heads-up, though.

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-9 points

Dislikes argument -> troll. There’s not much in your head right?

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-14 points

wHaT aRe YoU tAlKiNg aBoUt?

This is what happens when they stop funding education.

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5 points

You mean like people being too dumb or lazy to click on a link if they seek further information?

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2 points

You have a significant amount of free time, don’t you?

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would it be ethical to use a VPN to support even though I’m not living in the EU region?

edit: please, downvote someone who is genuinely trying to help your cause, I’m sure that’ll help a ton. I’m sure I’ll help spread the word now as you’ve shown me how you treat your supporters. Great people, great platform, great cause, I’m sure.

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26 points
  1. This is about citizenship not about residence. So if you have European citizenship (even dual citizenship) you can sign from outside the EU without a VPN necessary
  2. All signatures are checked by the EU after the fact. So if you aren’t eligible then signing won’t help. Your signature is going to get invalidated
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Ah thanks, I thought it’s like change.org or something that verify email and IP address only. Again, not an EU citizen so I don’t know any of this stuff.

Edit: aaaannnnddd I’m getting downvoted to hell because I’m trying to help. Typical Lemmy experience.

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14 points

This is not some informal petitioning website. This is an official EU commission citizen petition. After the goal is reached the commission will look into it and take legislative steps if they see the need or address it in a way they see fit. Then it goes through the normal eu institutions. I believe this is a lot more powerful than random change.org petitions.

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aaaannnnddd I’m getting downvoted to hell because I’m trying to help

I appreciate the effort, but it doesn’t really help if we just get a bunch of invalid signatures

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8 points

Don’t worry. Downvotes don’t really mean anything. They just sort your comment further down for some people and maybe make it start collapsed.

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-2 points

1 million

Super hard for a country like Ireland, a population of 6 million

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8 points

According to the page, the threshold for Ireland is 9,165. So far 5,819 have signed.

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31 points

I think you missunderstand how this works. Not every country has to reach 1 million. Together all countries need to reach the goal. In addition to that 7 countries also need to pass a threshold. This threshold is scaled to the population of the country in question. So in Ireland fewer people need to sign than in Germany. But this is a separate requirement from the 1 million goal

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46 points

It’s simple, I see a stop killing games post and I upvote.

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23 points

You know, I’m something of a “I’m doing my part” guy myself.

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4 points

I was really sure I deleted my reddit account

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