What an utter piece of shit.

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Musk is a war criminal. This is a crime against humanity.

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It’s neither of those things. Words have meanings, and legal terms have very specific meanings.

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Musk is treasonous war criminal.

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28 points

Hey look a rational person.

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Get a stick and kill it!

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Spoken like a true ttrpg player.

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'You didn’t technically use the attack action.

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Legally though, does he still qualify as a piece of shit? Cause he is a piece of shit.

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Guilty as charged

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It is neither of those things, but he may be subject to an act of retorsion, which isn’t bound by the rule of “proportionate response,” from both the government of the US, and the government of Ukraine. I don’t expect that to happen, but that’s what would happen to any of us doing something like that.

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Elon is not the president, a leader, the military, nor a government. This parasite should be in a prison or a brig at the very least. This is fucking treason.

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He controls 10K satellites, the electric car charging infrastructure, and a massive global communications platform. He’s too big to control. Good thing we hero-worshipped him for years. 🫢 🤭

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He doesn’t personally control any of that. Each of those organizations could continue on without him, probably happier to be rid of him.

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The boards and probably kick him out and be better off.

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Yep. It’s always good to remind everyone that he didn’t build anything, nor did he found Tesla.

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But people think he controls that. And, just as with hundred-dollar bills, what we believe gives things power.

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Too big? Hold my TCP/IP stack…

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He’s the richest man in the world. He could buy his own fucking island and never be arrested. Can one country shut down Twitter, Tesla, or SpaceX?

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I’ve heard this a bit. Treason is a crime against your own country, no? How is this treason?

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So if during the occupation of Afghanistan, I fought for the Taliban but only killed Afghan Army soldiers, I could return to the USA without any worries?

Giving comfort to the enemy has a name, what is it again?

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US is not at war with Russia so it is not treason.

Jeez, people in this thread are hysterical.

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It’s not. His actions can be deplorable without actually being illegal. The Lemmy Bar Association is about as legally competent as my cat.

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He’s twarthing the war effort of a country the US is supporting. I don’t know if he broke any laws but he’s defenitely on the government’s shitlist now.

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he’s definitely on the government’s shitlist now

A billionaire who donates shitloads to both of the corporations masquerading as political parties? On the US government’s shitlist? Oh you sweet summer child…

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St Helena.

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Can donnie Bin Laden join him in there?

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Hang on… That’s sabotage. Straight up. That’s a criminal offence no?

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Yes. Assisting putler’s genocide against Ukrainian children is a war crime.

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For what countries laws? He’s not a Ukrainian citizen

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So if you’re not an American you’re free to sabotage the US as much as you want and it’s not a crime?

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Yeah but it’s not called treason, treason is to your own country, ofc this is still an illegal offense in Ukraine but I don’t think it’s treason?

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So if you’re not an American you’re free to sabotage the US as much as you want and it’s not a crime?

Two points.

First, US laws apply on US soil, or to US citizens. If you’re neither, then cooperation and extradition agreements apply, if there are any.

Second, not sure where you got the “sabotage the US” part from:

  • the request came from Ukraine
  • from the beginning, Musk has been sabotaging Russia by disabling Starlink outside of Ukrainian borders, this was supported by both Ukraine and the US
  • the Ukrainian request was for removing part of the sabotage so Ukraine could attack Russia with Ukrainian drones
  • it wasn’t a US request, it didn’t involve any US assets, or any US operations

Maybe Ukraine should have asked the US, instead of asking a private non-Ukrainian citizen.

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Check his party affiliation

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Yep, but he’s rich. I fully expect nothing to happen.

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Yeah. According to the article, he straight up told the top military brass of the Biden administration right afterwards and they did nothing. No prosecution, no whistle-blowing to the press about a war crime. Nothing.

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What do you suggest they do?

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What

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SpaceX / Starlink does work for the USA Pentagon. he isn’t against war.

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And people here are thinking that USA is gonna let one rich guy to effect national strategy because he felt like it. I don’t know which is worse people believing that these people got government contracts because they are rich or deep state (military industrial complex) letting them do these things just because they are rich. They are forgetting even Elon himself openly stated that his company is under strict surveillance and control because it’s seen as a national security matter regarding the rocket technology and he can’t even finalize who to employ or share information unless government approved it.

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He sould absolutely be in prison. He interfered with a military conflict.

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Lol. Unlike all the countries arming Ukraine? Not saying Musk isn’t an asshole, but there has got to be a better charge than that.

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He’s not a country, but the countries are.

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That technically isn’t illegal

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It isn’t legally treason or insurrection. I’m not sure what the legal term would be for what he did, but it does open him up directly for an act of retorsion from either the US or Ukraine, so it is illegal under international law.

The fun thing about an act of retorsion is that it doesn’t have to follow the “proportionate response” rule, so Ukraine can go as nuclear as they want against Musk, and The Hague will support them.

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