because otherwise they’d probably be second at the current moment, tbh

66 points

because otherwise they’d probably be second at the current moment, tbh

The US military has killed 2 million people per decade every decade since ww2.

The IDF does not even come close to the US military.

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16,000,000 still ain’t got nothing on the British Empire’s multiple man-made famines that replaced policies of giving food to people who were starving to ensure they didn’t die with new policies of not doing that because it enabled them to wield starvation as a cudgel against any and all forms of organized labor. The British Empire killed anywhere from 10 million to 200+ million depending on if you count doing nothing to address public health issues for the poor and especially the colonized as social murder (lib historians do not).

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26 points

Absolutely, the British empire was unfathomably evil, thanks in no small part to the incredibly open classism of the british aristocracy that never really evolved all that much over feudal times.

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30 points

Yea it’s been pretty lib seeing people act like Israel is a unique evil but like no, so many countries in the West have already done just as bad or worse but with infinitely better PR

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25 points

It’s really more the horrifying spectacle of it. In Vietnam people had access to rapid or sometimes even live TV news about what was happening in the war, and it changed public opinion drastically. Same with TikTok now. It’s hard to swallow any of Israel’s bullshit when you’ve seen footage of children screaming with bones sticking out of their mangled legs, crying near-skeletal because they can’t stand the unending pain of starving to death, plastic bags of 70kg of shredded meat each being counted as a person and whatnot.

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Is that an average? I’m really curious about your sourcing on that because that’s a hell of a mic drop to have in my pocket later.

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I saw a comrade say it once and I’ve been repeating it ever since because I know that even if you checked the numbers they’d be fucking BAD. I know for a fact that it’s true for the last few decades because the deaths in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and so on are all attributable to the US. Going further back we’ve got the Korean War. Vietnam. We could also throw in Yemen? Syria. Iran?

It depends on what you want to attribute to them. But even being conservative the numbers aren’t gonna be good are they?

Someone could do the numbers if they want, I’ve never felt the need to, that number is horrific and definitely feels right.

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Um, actually… the US military only averages 1.9 million deaths

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yeah I know, just thinking that since she’s saying this aspirationally she’s talking like there’s another army to overcome, which implies Israel since we’re discussing wanton lethality.

it’s already an instance of “we gotta turn the Hitler dial up” but if you were asking for a counterexample for any army that comes close w/rt unadulterated lethality it’s gotta be Israel, especially if we’re considering the American attention span

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She also mention unlike Trump she will deal with the autocrats, which shows a foreign policy more agressive than Biden’s which combined with that policy paper from her team that criticized Trump for not striking Iran after their response for the assasination of their general, means we could see an Iran-US war during her presidency

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43 points

oh cool the democrats literally giving me an actual non joking reason to vote for trump, that’s great

I’m too lazy to do it so nobody fucking @ me about it, but like, jesus christ guys

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40 points

policy paper from her team that criticized Trump for not striking Iran

uhh, what now?

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It was from the Official Democratic Party platform

All of this [ed: prior 3 paragraphs all about bs Biden did against Iran] stands in sharp contrast to Trump’s fecklessness and weakness in the face of Iranian aggression during his presidency. In 2018, when Iranian-backed militias repeatedly attacked the U.S. consulate in Basra, Iraq Trump’s only response was to close our diplomatic facility. In June 2019, when Iran shot down a U.S. surveillance aircraft operating in international airspace above the Straits of Hormuz, Trump responded by tweet and then abruptly called off any actual retaliation, causing confusion and concern among his own national security team. In September 2019, when Iranian-backed groups threatened global energy markets by attacking Saudi oil infrastructure, Trump failed to respond against Iran or its proxies. In January 2020, when Iran, for the first and only time in its history, directly launched ballistic missiles against U.S. troops in western Iraq, Trump mocked the resulting Traumatic Brain Injuries suffered by dozens of American servicemembers as mere “headaches” – and again, took no action

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48 points

Remember when all the libs were losing their minds when Trump ordered the assassination of Solemani? Now its not even a footnote in this revisionist nonsense.

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Trump mocked the resulting Traumatic Brain Injuries suffered by dozens of American servicemembers as mere “headaches”

Okay Trump sucks but this is hella based

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I really can’t get over how fucking insane this paragraph is

If you were trying to convince me to vote for Trump as the harm reduction candidate, this is what you would write

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10 points

You know, it’s seeming less and less like Kamala is actually the “harm reduction” candidate

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Can’t wait for some coups because a foreign official was found in possession of weed.

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15 points

they will simply use it as evidence of it becoming a narco-state and use it to intervine

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13 points

Wait, so kamala was actually LBJ all along?

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The way Israel keeps escalating, we might see that war start before election day.

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50 points

Gonna kill’em all

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genocide joe and kill-em-all kamala

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20 points

Holocaust Harris

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Kill-em-all-a

Killemalla sounds so good

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23 points

Pokemon go commit genocide

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This might be really controversial to say, but I think everyone who cheers this on should literally be crucified and put on display on every street.

My moral standards have dropped considerably these past several years.

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I literally said out loud during her speech “Please Iran this is the time to start your retaliation hit this fucking building with a hypersonic missile kill everyone in this miserable convention please”

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They want lethality, they should sperience lethality

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I think everyone who cheers this on should literally be crucified and put on display on every street.

If white liberal society keeps up on the track it’s been on, I’m going to become the Black Joshua Graham by like. End of 2025.

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