367 points

Note that everyone mentioned in the article only regretted their statements once they realized the kid was disabled… Maybe just don’t make fun of people’s kids in general? Is that so difficult? WTF do his kids have to do with his political campaign???

permalink
report
reply
241 points

Everyone please take note:

Barron Trump has been 100% unmentioned by anyone except when he was going to speak at some gathering, as an adult. Then, when he decided not to do that, everyone stopped talking about him entirely.

That is how you do that. If an adult is getting invovled in politics, they’re fair game, regardless of who they’re related to. People who aren’t involved in politics, you leave them the fuck out of it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
122 points
*

Barron Trump has been 100% unmentioned especially by his father, who doesn’t want to be seen next to him because Barron is taller.

permalink
report
parent
reply
54 points

Melania has taken him and fucking noped them both out of life with Donald.

I’m not sure a life with Melania is healthier, but it’s certainly less public.

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

This is a 100% legitimate question . I’ve seen a couple of pictures of Barron recently, and it’s right in Donald Trump’s wheelhouse to suddenly disown his own son for having the audacity to be taller. There’s not a question in my mind. He will never allow even his own children to overshadow him, ever. Unless he wants to fuck them, of course coughivankacough.

I remember some speculation that Barron had some kind of developmental disability. Autism, possibly. And it wasn’t the usual bashing because he’s Trump’s kid. Legit questions on if the kid was autistic. Has that ever been confirmed one way or the other? Because if Barron has any kind of developmental issue that’s noticeable at first look, there is no possible way Trump would ever be seen in public with him.

And keep in mind: I know nothing of Barron. I do not fault him for being Trump’s son because he can’t control that. I do not know his political views, if he even has any. And if he does have some kind of disability, I wish him nothing but the best. But go on Netflix and watch the first season of Bridgerton. Look at how the Duke’s father treated him growing up. If Barron does have a disability himself, that is exactly how his father treated him.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Not true. Trump prominently mentioned his son Barron and his proficiency with “the cyber”, eight years ago.

permalink
report
parent
reply
60 points

Yuup. Agreed. The last time I recall hearing of presidential kids being bullied was Obamas kids. Interesting.

permalink
report
parent
reply
54 points

Chelsea Clinton got it pretty hard for years also.

I had to look up if GWB had kids or not. Both daughters got involved in the campaign a bit, and now I recognize the one from various TV stuff too. I don’t remember much said about them at the time.

The grown up Trump children get blasted, but they are all welllll into adulthood regardless of what their defenders say, and they are actively involved in all the political BS, so they are fair game for criticism.

permalink
report
parent
reply
20 points

Palin’s kids were in the public crosshairs. But I think that had more to do with Palin’s awful hypocrisy on family values than anything else.

permalink
report
parent
reply
42 points

permalink
report
parent
reply
26 points

The only times I’ve seen Barron being mentioned is when people said that they hope he won’t turn out like his father.

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

Ditto, one could also comment on the use of a kid as a political prop while not making it personal about the kid.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

If that was a thing that was happening, yes, and the commentary would be about the candidate or the campaign.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

A reporter commented something like “wow he’s tall” and apparently Fox felt the need to call them out on that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Barron is an adult now and well on his way to being a shitheel like the rest of his siblings and father. Fuck him.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Barron Trump has been 100% unmentioned by anyone

Maybe you’re young and don’t remember, but it was absolutely an issue. My recollection is that it was quickly squashed, but it certainly was not “100% unmentioned by anyone.”

https://www.thewrap.com/white-house-says-it-fully-expects-the-press-to-leave-barron-trump-alone/

permalink
report
parent
reply
37 points
*

I was knee deep in all of the Trump BS back on reddit in the day and the only thing I remember people saying about Barron is that they felt sorry for him for having Trump as a father.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

I disagree it felt like everyone left Barron and Melania even alone often. Once she started being more she got more flak and quickly faded away. Those two both avoided pretty much everything

permalink
report
parent
reply
24 points

Note that everyone mentioned in the article only regretted their statements once they realized the kid was disabled… Maybe just don’t make fun of people’s kids in general? Is that so difficult? WTF do his kids have to do with his political campaign???

Because the GOP have found that harassing random family members of their opponents is an effective strategy.

Think of how many people have exited politics because of threats to them or family members.. How many people, especially in the Trump years, who otherwise may have made good representatives, have decided that it’s just not worth it? Think of the senators that refused to convict Trump during his impeachments because of threats to their families.

They do it because it works. Whether the kid had disabilities doesn’t matter, outside of my belief that the more disabled the kid is, the more they’re going to attack, simultaneously hoping to exploit a parent’s desire to shield their child from harassment at any cost and the child’s potential inability to defend themselves at all or even mentally process what’s going on properly. They do it because it gets a rise out of their base, and also because of the sliver of a chance that maybe, just maybe Tim Walz will wake up in the morning and look for an exit because he’s afraid he bit off more than he could chew.

They just don’t know how to handle it when they realized that instead of backing off, he came back for another bite. So they’re doing the only thing they know how to do. Attack. Punch down. Insult. Belittle. Make sure everybody knows you’re better than “them”, by any means necessary.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Exactly - who wouldn’t be emotional in a moment like that? Plenty of other people in the audience looked emotional, and it wasn’t even their dad on stage talking about how much he loves them.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
129 points

All conservatives seem to be anymore is 3rd grade schoolyard bullies. I guess they’re just as weak and insecure. Such a shame that such a huge chuck of the population will never reach self actualization. What a pitiful existence - kinda makes me sad for them.

permalink
report
reply
38 points

Something President Obama said in his speech the other night - instead of making it about us and them, you try and find some common ground. And there’s always something to agree on, even totally opposing sides. We’re still people living our lives.

"That sense of mutual respect has to be part of our message. Our politics have become so polarized these days that all of us across the political spectrum seem so quick to assume the worst in others unless they agree with us on every single issue. We start thinking that the only way to win is to scold and shame and out-yell the other side. And after a while, regular folks just tune out, or they don’t bother to vote.

Now that approach may work for the politicians who just want attention and thrive on division, but it won’t work for us. To make progress on the things we care about, the things that really affect people’s lives, we need to remember that we’ve all got our blind spots and contradictions and prejudices. And that if we want to win over those who aren’t yet ready to support our candidates, we need to listen to their concerns and maybe learn something in the process. "

None of that is easy, and not everyone is going to change. But the other choice is to be like them, and that helps no one.

permalink
report
parent
reply
59 points
*

if we want to win over those who aren’t yet ready to support our candidates, we need to listen to their concerns

dems have been trying to do this for years. YEARS. what do republicans do? vote against THEIR OWN bills, because they don’t want anything to get accomplished while a democrat is potus.

i love obama, but unfortunately the only thing that seems to be starting to work is calling republicans weird couchfucking fascists who need to be defeated in a landslide just to keep the country from devolving into a christofascist dictatorship

the “lets play nice” approach gave us trump 2016 , a 6-3 corrupt conservative scotus, and not even a guarantee that it won’t all happen all over again starting november

fuck trump, fuck trump voters, and fuck anyone who claims to still be “on the fence” about which choice is best for this country.

“undecided” doesn’t mean undecided for this election. “undecided” means “i’m voting R, but don’t want to say it out loud,” because that person knows that they’ll be–correctly–shat on for voting for the objectively wrong choice

permalink
report
parent
reply
38 points

And that if we want to win over those who aren’t yet ready to support our candidates, we need to listen to their concerns and maybe learn something in the process. "

This take the high road attitude can fuck right off when the other side’s concerns are irrational racist hatemongering bullshit.

permalink
report
parent
reply
22 points

The high road only works when your opponent as a sense of shame and the capacity to self-reflect, even a little bit.

MAGA has neither. The few republicans that still do, the few who are still the adults in the room, have already pledged for Harris. Any of them who haven’t by now are lost causes addicted to Trumps tit milk.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

Obama was, and remains, shockingly naive in this way.

The entire republican mindset is being trained to abuse this kind of attempt at good faith engagement. Fascism thrives on that kind of naiveté.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points
*

I think he knows, he’s just playing for the centrist vote.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

These are beautiful and healing words and also we’re dealing with the white Taliban whose very identity is not to play along with that.

Obama’s approach is more preventative, whereas we’re in the cancer-killing phase of things. We’re trying to get back to where we can do things that way safely, if we’re doing things right.

And even the preventative approach has to be fucking ballsy and loud about not letting rich cocksuckers hijack civil conversations to justify robbing everybody blind while calling it “business as usual”, which is what set the stage for all this in the first place.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

The sentiment only goes so far when right wing media is constantly going on about the communist antifa radical terrorist pedophile deep state Soros millennial immigrant rapist woke mob that comprises the Democratic voting base.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Seems like a pretty normal kid to me. The Republican proving their weirdness yet again.

The most surprising part of this story is that what got the guy off the air was an appeal to advertisers, as if they didn’t know the brand of hate these rage bait media personalities are selling on righty radio.

permalink
report
reply
58 points

I love how he said “I didn’t know the kid was disabled”, as if that makes any difference whatsoever to the fact that he sent an unprovoked abusive tweet out about a kid being happy. Jay, you’re an absolute CUNT.

permalink
report
reply
9 points
*

That might be the best part of his apology :

“I didn’t realize the kid was disabled, and have taken the post down. But, I’ve been challenging Walz on substance AND character ever since he was named as the VP candidate. He’s a congenital liar who’s destroyed Minn in a number of ways”

Basically a dickwad with the mental age of a five year old who can’t own up to his mistakes. He even deleted his apology lol.

permalink
report
parent
reply
50 points
*

Faux News and Alina Habba were pearl clutching at the thought of Trump’s “boys” being prosecuted for their role in the organization’s fraud, which was weird because they’re in their 40s, but then an actual child gets mocked and the right wing nut jobs are okay with it. It’s always hypocrisy with these motherfuckers

permalink
report
reply
9 points

As soon as I saw him react I knew these fucks would be childish about it.

permalink
report
parent
reply

politics

!politics@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to “Mom! He’s bugging me!” and “I’m not touching you!” Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That’s all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

Community stats

  • 15K

    Monthly active users

  • 16K

    Posts

  • 450K

    Comments