Tell us why we should unexpectedly come to love your hobby.

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Ham radio.

On the surface, it just sounds like listening to a bunch of old farts babbling on about their enlarged prostates, and tbf, there is a bit of that if you never go any deeper than 2M/70cm voice modes.

But there’s just SOOOO much you can do.

Want to see how far you can bounce a signal off a mirror laying on the surface of the moon? Yup. You can do that.

Want to launch and communicate with your own satellite? Yup. It’s a thing.

Want to remotely control devices from hundreds of miles away without using the internet? Yup.

Want to gps track your car at all times, even when there’s no cell phone service? That’s called APRS.

Want to have a conversation with astronauts on the ISS as it flies overhead? They’ve got ham equipment on board.

You can even play with broadcasting and/or receiving “secret” tv and radio stations - that is, they’re on alternate frequencies that regular TVs and radios don’t pick up.

It just goes so deep.

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Woah, woah, woah. You had me at babbling prostates…

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They talk about many other illnesses too! (Not the babbling prostates, the babbling ham operators)

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I just can’t afford the equipment. I thought about it back in the analog days, but back then you had to learn Morse code and I just didn’t think I was up for it.

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Money is the biggest issue. I’ve had my general for years… have never been able to afford a radio to use those bands at home. Ive had a magnetic loop antenna all ready to use in my garage for several years but no radio to run it. The local 2m/70cm is just old guys complaining usually. Passing traffic is fun during hurricanes… Only so many times I can enjoy trying to hit satellites that are swamped with people.

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Morse is no longer required-- yay!

And with the appearance of low cost Chinese brand radios, the equipment can be cheap for 2m, particularly.

The usual go-to for new hams is the Baofeng UV-5R and similar. The cost is about $20-30. It’s not the greatest radio and is kind of messy but for $20ish who cares if it gets you on the air.

Also Hamfests are a great place to pick up cheap used gear. For example I got an entry level 2m mobile rig (an old Radio Shack model) for $10 and antenna for similar.

If you want a new higher quality handheld transceiver (HT) there are options at $100 or less from Alinco and Yaesu. (Maybe Kenwood and Icom have budget options too idk)

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You can get a Baofeng UV5R for about $20 and it can broadcast on ham frequencies! Just don’t tell anyone I recommended that radio to you (I have 2 of them though). Morse code isn’t a requirement anymore either. Time to do it!

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You can even play with broadcasting and/or receiving “secret” tv and radio stations - that is, they’re on alternate frequencies that regular TVs and radios don’t pick up.

Go on…

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Amateur Television aka Ham TV. It’s not really secret TV of course. But, yeah, you can broadcast and receive video and audio. I haven’t tried it yet but it always seemed like it would be kinda neat. https://www.hamtv.com/

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There’s also old farts talking about beer, motorcycles, and bears! That’s what the guys in my area like talking about. It’s pretty fun listening to them.

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Wow, that’s what cooler than I ever would have thought. Thanks for sharing!

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I’ve tried to get into ham radio, but there is basically no one certified in my country, the closest place i can get certified is 270 km away… it’s not fun if you are basically speaking to yourself.

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I’m not sure I understand, the whole point is to talk to people very far away.

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You often have to have a liscence to operate radio equipment of that type, which required you to be certified, the person that would certify him is 270km away

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I recently started studying for the Technician exam – excited to see I made a good choice!

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Oh wow…

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Literally ANY hobby can seem boring to most people, but it wouldn’t be a hobby if people that got into it didn’t find it interesting as all hell.

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I came here to suggest something, but you obviated the need. Well done. You out-thought the experiment.

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You can still suggest it. Might be a hobby no one thought it. But the reality is that to an outsider, most hobbies seem boring.

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Birding, you’ll be truly surprised by the variety of just birds around you. Perks: it gets you out on trails, low cost of entry (binoculars), the data you produce of birds is used for research, and you’re just observing so you don’t need to worry about harming animals.

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I remember when everyone was excited about playing Pokemon Go and wishing that there was a way to do something similar but in the wilderness rather than cities. I wanted to be able to wander around the wilds trying to encounter strange and rare creatures. Then I realised I had just invented birdwatching.

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You’re John Birdman??

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The Audubon app is great for tracking birds you’ve seen, and the observations are used for scientific studies!

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Just don’t try to take pictures. That’s a money pit.

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Not sure if you are into board games but Wingspan is pretty fun. Really got me fascinated with different birds.

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Birding is pretty cool. I enjoy it.

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Genuine question: when did birdwatching/ornithology become birding?

Birding sounds like a not so distant cousin to dogging.

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Can you explain a bit more about producing data that helps researchers? That’s intriguing to me.

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Yeah man. So if you use the eBird app or website to track your birds you see (use Merlin bird id for id help) Cornell university actually maintains that and uses it. These sites and apps are highly highly recommended and almost mandatory if you find yourself doing birding often. Anyways, as you populate you list with sightings and areas you’ve found birds they can map out so much. Stuff like habitats, ranges, changes in these, population sizes, migration timings, and I’m sure there’s more I’m not thinking of. These are all important with human influenced climate change and habitat destruction.

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This was a relatively short-term thing, but I think it counts loosely as hobbyish… in my 20s, I was determined to find the best bloody mary in town. I went to every single bar, restaurant, etc. and tried each one in turn.

Which sounds boring, I know, but I had so many great conversations and met so many interesting people.

And to answer your likely question: Surprisingly, Red Lobster, which made its own mix from real tomato juice and didn’t use some crappy bloody mary mix. This was in the 90s, so I can’t endorse their current bloody mary.

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We used to do that - try to decide who had the best tortilla soup, tiramisu, burger, tacos, … Very fun!

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etymology

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etymology

Give us your best word origin.

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Not that person but I always enjoyed helicopter, because it’s broken down into helico and pter

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Helico means spinning and pter means pter

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What about “ligma”?

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Vodka.

Take the Russian word for “water,” essential for survival and comfort, and convert it to the diminutive case, indicating something even more precious to you than life itself.

Words always mean things.

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Whiskey is similar. It comes from the Gaelic uisge beatha which means water of life.

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Water is the main ingredient of vodka.

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Gotta love cacaphony. I never thought about it until I learned the word euphony, which means “good sounding” from the Greek eu (good) and phone (sound).

You can see where this is going, right?

So the Greek kakos means bad, but is cognate with the Latin cacere (to defecate), the word from which we get the informal –if slightly outdated– euphemism “caca” for shit, crap, doodoo.

So cacaphony, sure, means “bad sounding” but also in a very real sense means “sounds like shit”.


As a bonus, when I was learning Latin, I was delighted to discover the names Miranda and Amanda mean respectively, literally, good lookin’ and good lovin’.

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Not a specific word, but it’s fascinating to me how, because of the Norman invasion in 1066, fancier words are of French origin and lower-class words are Germanic. So the animal is a cow, but we eat beef (boeuf) and the animal is a pig, but we eat pork (porc). Chicken was something even the poor ate, so it didn’t change.

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“Poultry” though

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There are other funny things going on in animal names.

A “chicken” is a young “cock”, just as a “kitten” is a young “cat”.

And a “rabbit” was a young “coney” — which rhymes with “honey”.

But folks got prudish and they didn’t want to talk about cocks and coneys in front of the kids, so words like “chicken” and “rabbit” took over.


Meanwhile over at the pig farm, how does a farmer call a hog?

They holler “Soo-ee!”, right?

They’re speaking Latin. That’s “Sui!” — the vocative form of “sus”, Latin for pig. Folks have been talking to their pigs in Latin for a long, long time.

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One which you won’t be able to unlearn: “Kid” as a word for a child derives from a word “kid” which meant young goat. We’re literally calling human children “goat children” and it’s not even mocking.

The same thing happened in Swedish, the common word meaning “boy” or “guy” - “kille” is a shortened “killing” - young goat.

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Not a single word but equestrian and horse being closely related and both decended from krsos (if you say it out loud you can hear the similar to both horse and latin equs)

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Threshold.

In houses with mud floors, the stalks of wheat (thresh) were spread about as a kind of insulator and absorbative. A thresh hold was a block of wood at the entrance which stopped the thresh from getting spread through the doorway.

This grew to mean the boundary between the house and the rest of the world, to the point of symbolic ownership. When you cross a threshold you are going from one domain to another.

We now use it to mean a limit, or the how far you have to go before something changes or breaks. Kinda cool.

The other one is arrowhead. Terry Pratchett wrote a great piece on “ontic dumping”, where we use one word to mean one thing then associate it with another thing and the connection is just automatically known by all.

So ->

We know what this means right. Go in this direction, look at this direction, the thing which needs attention is in this direction. There are arrow heads everywhere. On signage, on interfaces, even on the spacecraft which we have sent careening off into the universe. If other species are out there, they might interact with an object which had an arrowhead on it and would have absolutely no concept of what it means.

Why does an arrow have a head anyway? Because that’s the way an arrow flies right. The pointy bit, which we call the arrowhead, moves in the direction that it’s pointing. Which is bullshit, because if you hold an arrow horizontally then drop it, it goes straight down. And it only flies in that direction if you apply force at one end of the arrow and propel it in that direction.

But WHY IS IT CALLED A HEAD?

It doesn’t resemble a head. There’s no body. Heads don’t usually “point” in the direction of travel. Yet we have taken a word that means “the bit that is important”, because we’ve determined that a head is an important thing, and the bit of a thing whxih does the most of the thinging should be called a head.

It baffles me.

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Etymology is fascinating. My dad had the full version of the OED when I was a kid (compressed down so that 4 pages fit on 1 page in the volume, but it was still in 2 volumes plus a supplement). I loved it. I looked up the history of words I didn’t know all the time.

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Etymology is interesting, I agree. I also find language in general fascinating. You might consider studying some basic linguistics, either academically or via youtube. How language works is really interesting, IMHO.

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I in fact have. I’ve always loved language, but it was not until college that I began studying it formally.

I started learning Lakota, Japanese, and Latin on top of my English and Spanish. And while I dropped Lakota from lack of resources and Japanese because I didn’t get along with the teacher, I stuck with the Latin and considered getting a minor in it. Just having Latin and Spanish to compare side-by-side was fascinating.

My main degree program was CS, though, and (dating myself here) the main problem in AI at the time was natural language processing, which means all of us in the AI specialization had to learn a lot about phonemes, read Noam Chomsky, and generally become linguistics nerds. That bubble burst my foury year, though, and left us scrambling for another problem in AI to study.

Since I didn’t end up using either my Latin or my linguistic modeling professionally, I rolled those interests into the hobbies of etymology and her dark cousin, the generation of neologisms.

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generation of neologisms

Ngl, I had to look up what neologism meant, but now I know that it = new words, expressions or usages.

It fascinates me how fast language is changing. When I was young verse was never used as a verb, as in “today we are versing another team”.

Or the word “meme” has completely changed meaning in less than two decades. It’s like watch evolution on fast-forward.

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There are moments where I look into the history of a word, and find out that it has a direct connection to PIE. For the rest of that day, I wonder what the language sounded like or what they called it

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I have a circle of friends that LOVE this. It kinda gets annoying when literally every conversation turns into a discussion on linguistics. It was interesting at first, but too much of a good thing and all that.

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https://www.etymonline.com/ for those interested.

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