Honda has pledged to invest $64 billion to develop seven bespoke electric vehicles, which it plans to launch by 2030 on its way to selling only EVs and fuel-cell vehicles after 2040. However, there doesn’t seem to be a consensus within the company that there is enough demand for EVs, which is reflected in its limited selection of available battery-powered models.

This is true for Japan’s home market but also for North America, where Honda sells two vehicles (the Prologue and the Acura ZDX), both of which are made by General Motors on the Ultium platform. Whenever Honda’s top executives come out to speak about selling fully electric vehicles, it always sounds like a mixed message that, in part, reaffirms the brand’s commitment to electrification while also suggesting it’s not yet convinced this is the way.

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I’d love an EV, but it needs to be under $5k, 150+ mile range minimum, and not have a battery on its last leg.

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Get a Wuling Hongguang Mini EV or a citroen ami (which unfortunately is over your budget)

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5 points

Best we can do for you is an electric bicycle.

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I hate when manufacturers tell me what I want and don’t want.

Fuck you Apple. Fuck you Samsung. Fuck you Google. and Fuck you Honda.

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And Fuck you, Matt Damon!

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Also fuck you dolphin, and fuck you whale!

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…cow and chicken? …Fuck you, cow, and fuck you, chicken!

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16 points

Mostly I want a 400 mile range EV under $50k. Had to settle for a PHEV RAV4 Prime for the moment.

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If you can charge at home, I think you should reconsider that 400 mile requirement. I have 310 mile range and rarely use more than like 20% of the battery.

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Yeah, that’s kind of why I got the RAV4 Prime in the end although I would love to replace it with a full EV eventually. I have fairly specific requirements because my folks live in the mountain about 300 miles away round trip and I need to be able to day trip it in an emergency (and 400 miles range ≠ 400 miles freeway range).

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It partially depends on lifestyle. I also have a 310 mile range and find that it’s really challenging to plan remote hiking / camping trips due to lack of infrastructure.

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Hence why we went with a PHEV. We’re on EV most of the time. For the rare times a year we’re traveling the thing has a 500 mile range. I’m tired before I need to fill up. We fill the vehicle 4x a year on average. Freaking love it.

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For sure. I just like to bring it up whenever somebody talks about needing a 400 mile range. More often than not, it’s not even their only vehicle. They just want a 1:1 replacement of their ICE range with no consideration of how home charging changes everything.

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A basic vehicle with room for four, no fancy electronics and doodads, zero cloud/app nonsense, 4-600 mile range, under $30K. Essentially, a Camry without range anxiety.

Make it happen and you’ll own the automotive world for the next decade.

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Model 3 with rebates is pretty close to what you described, other than the doodads.

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That’s like 80% of the issue. I don’t want my car to brick itself because the manufacturer pushes a poorly made software update.

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I think it would be nice if the updates were optional. I never thought I’d want to update the os on my car, until ford released an update that added Android Auto to my car when it wasn’t a feature originally.

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