146 points

All this does is make me more interested in “pirating” their infinitely copyable material. More to the point it’s making my interest in financially supporting them drop to zero if not lower.

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72 points

With Usenet, Plex* (Streaming Server), Radarr (automated movie downloading) and Sonarr (automated TV downloading and management) it’s never been easier!

*Plex is currently on a slow path of enshittification and the only other good alternative, Jellyfin, still has some ways to go before it can pass “The Spouse Test”. I myself have only had Jellyfin in testing and not yet replaced Plex with it. But that day is coming. Jellyfin is well under active development and I have no doubt it will get to feature and stability parity with Plex

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33 points

Jellyfin pased my spouse test for local network.

I put her on tailscale for remote access but she’s not a big fan of that.

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4 points

Is it not safe to expose externally with ssl yet?

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4 points

Why not having your own wireguard endpoint at home? Then you could additionally filter ads using adguard at home and on the go.

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3 points

Same. Wish the world had already adopted ipv6

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3 points

Same, mine passed the test. But used only locally.

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17 points

Where’s Jellyfin failing the spouse test? My spouse preferred it to Plex because she could turn off all the crap on the home screen.

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After looking at this list I’d like to pre-qualify what I’m about to say: I have jellyfin and like it, I use jellyfin regularly. I have it pointed to the same catalog as Plex and if Plex ever gets thoroughly enshitified I will leave it for jellyfin

The biggest things I’ve seen (in decreasing order of pain):

transcoding can fail on media that Plex has no problems with

Jellyfin is significantly worse at detecting names and properly assigning metadata. Jellyfin does not have the same ease of fixing that when it happens that Plex has.

I’m not going to go through all the work to reverse proxy it. Nor do I trust opening it to the internet. So for her to access it outside the house she’s going to be using tailscale. Kind of just extra steps for the sake of extra steps.

Finamp is a poor replacement for Plexamp, Don’t get me wrong I love the fan project but it’s not anywhere near as good, and it becomes quite painful to use on large audio catalogs.

The Roku client doesn’t have any method to mark things as watched or unwatched or modified playlisted items.

I dislike the sections being static one row high and then having to rotate left and right through multiple things when they could just wrap.

I am super amazed that the project runs as well as it does. It’s a monumental piece of open source work, but there’s a lot of polish problems and I’m not qualified to help them fix them.

Edit: oh and I really really miss these skip intro Skip credits option that Plex has.

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Just general glitchiness, odd UI design choices etc. Def needs more polish

When I say Spouse Test I mean from the context of a spouse who just “doesn’t do computers”, if your spouse is technically inclined at all, say as a PC gamer or something and has dealt with sometimes-kinda-annoying software and has some patience, then they’ll probably be fine with it

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3 points

I dipped my toes in the self-hosted route and would recommend Stremio + Torrentio + RealDebrid as a much simpler alternative.

Here’s a guide I used - you can probably have it up and running in less than an hour.

Major points:

  • Easy setup, easy to use
  • Low cost at <$35/year
  • Can not share accounts (specifically, RD limits to one ongoing stream at a time)
  • Limited customization

I have very limited self hosting experience, and between getting my first hello world service running, problems with my ISP, sorting through the different ways to get content, and not already having TBs if hard drives sitting around, I found it to be pretty challenging.

If you’re already experienced in self hosting (or want to learn) and don’t mind the storage costs, then I’d recommend the Plex/Jellyfin route, but if you just want an alternative to the existing streaming services then I’d suggest looking into Stremio.

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Seconded. I’ve used this exact setup for years on an NVIDIA Shield Pro. I understand it isn’t “pure” from a piracy perspective, not the most ideal, in-the-weeds setup, but it sure does just work.

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You can always use the older, well established, actively developed, and stable project that Jellyfin is built from; Emby. (Jellyfin is literally Embys code from 10+ years ago)

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11 points

Yea no. FUCK Emby and their bullshit, Emby is the next Plex and not in a good way. I was there 10 years ago when Jellyfin split off, so AFAIC there are only 2 viable streaming software, Plex and Jellyfin. Emby is dead to me.

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107 points

Ah yes, I’m sure this crackdown will have the result of ending piracy forever.

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15 points

The year of the death of the piracy is now

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9 points

I mean it’s only right. Don’t we all keep getting paid for work we did years ago?

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96% of corps stop with the crackdowns right before they end piracy forever

Don’t let reality stop you from doing something you love

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101 points

Still not subscribing to all the shit services. I’d rather don’t watch stuff and go outside. Yeah, you heard me right, I’ll rather be going fucking outside!

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10 points

Touch some grass

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12 points

Smoke some grass.

FTFY

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2 points

Just did, lol

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3 points

I’d happily buy stuff if they’d just give me a mkv file or a disc that isn’t encrypted.

I’ve been back to buying UHDs because I can rip them. Amazing how a good experience got me to pay again.

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Personally I prefer when people keep their fucking inside, rather than outside where I might have to accidentally see it.

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88 points

Good luck locating my hard drive with several Terabytes of movies, TV shows and music.

If other sites would shut down I would share those files even if I need to send pigeons with usb sticks attached to their little feet.

Human culture is to be shared. And that is just a basic moral principle that should be engraved on Human Rights declaration.

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33 points

But you’ll hurt the film industry. Their last movie only made 100 million, but they expected 200 million 😿

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And they had to work so hard to cook the books to make it look like it lost money on it so they didn’t have to pay out their cast and crew, too. Won’t anyone think of the poor executives!?!?

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5 points

I guess you’re not talking about the Borderlands movie

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low throughput

That’s a very generous way to put it

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4 points

Hell yeah. Also, support your local library! I know your local library doesn’t have a free for all streaming service, but they lend books and all kinds of media… Just imagine if we could push it to where your local library DID have a Plex/Jellyfin/Netflix-esque service? Just log in with your library card! That’s the dream…

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69 points

The message also ends with a specifically worded call to action: “If possible, please use legal paid services. It’s something we should do to show our respect for creators and content producers.”

LOL… they have fucked EVERY artist with the “streaming is a new medium and you get no royalties from it”. Even Black Widow herself had to fight Disney in court to get paid for her very own movie.

Studios can go fuck themselves hard… they won stop piracy and they know it, this is why the always make such a big deal out of whatever little gain they make

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