Dear Muslims, here let me just give you a gun pointing straight back to you. Might as well just commit self suicide with this “revenge” vote you are throwing away.
Eh, Trump or Harris, in the end of the day it will be the same. Gaza will be wiped out but at least one won’t come after you here in the US, but again eh. Sign your own death warrant.
:)
The issue is much, much larger than what Israel is doing to Gaza.
If you fail to vote for Harris, you allow Trump to win.
If Trump wins:
- He will encourage Israel to finish the genocide more quickly.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d
- He will take Israel’s policy of illegally invading Lebanon as a “security zone” and apply it to Mexico:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_Southern_Lebanon
- He will set up internment camps in the United States for immigrants and others classed as “undesirable”:
- He will purge the government of any and all opposition:
- He wants to arrest journalists:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/politics/kash-patel-trump-administration/index.html
To be clear here, if Harris does not win, Trump will. Those are your two choices. You can choose to vote for Harris or you court disaster. There is no viable 3rd choice.
You will however allow the most pro genocide voter to decide the election for you.
Good for you.
“I care about Palestinians so much that I’m willing to sacrifice their future well being for my poorly formed but intractable political ideals.”
Ok.
Harris is not pro-Genocide. Trump is.
“Let me be very clear: I am unequivocal and unwavering in my commitment to Israel’s defense and its ability to defend itself, and that’s not going to change,”
vs.
“They have to get it done. Get it over with and get it over with fast because we have to – you have to get back to normalcy and peace.”
One of those two people is going to be the next President.
Harris believes, rightly, that Israel has the right to defend itself the same as any other country.
The problem is, they haven’t actually been engaging in defense for some time now. That’s the fault with Israel and Bibi, not Harris.
Trump believes Gaza needs to be exterminated fast and would bring the worst Israeli policies here.
Harris is just as much pro genocide as Trump is. Out of one side of their mouth, they talk ceasefire, as they have just completed their 500th military weapons drop to Israel. That’s why Democrats cannot be trusted. We have listened to what they said and then watched what they do.
There is no viable 3rd choice.
I’m choosing 3rd party anyway. Saying there’s no viable third choice is just a way to keep the broken system intact.
The only reason a third choice isn’t viable is because we’ve been conditioned to believe it can’t be, and that’s exactly what the duopoly wants us to think.
Real change happens when we stop accepting the status quo and start supporting alternatives that challenge the power structure.
Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body. If the forces of democracy take decisive, terroristic action against the reaction from the very beginning, the reactionary influence in the election will already have been destroyed.
Karl Marx 1850
I’m pretty sure Marx lived in a country with a parliamentary system. Not a two-party, first past the post system.
If you don’t understand what the difference is with regards to election outcomes, then I don’t know what to tell you.
It’s absurd to pretend that the situation he’s referring to is anything close to what’s happening now.
Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.
YES!!!
That is fucking beautiful. And it’s incredible to see that what was true in 1850 is still just as true today. Thank you for that! Love it.
I’m gonna have to start using parts of that quote in some of my replies to the Lemmy bullies and people who are spreading discontent under the guise of just helping out their party, but who are really just protecting their capitalistic advantages under a corrupt duopoly.
Many on Lemmy seem to not don’t want change or are they are afraid to speak up for it. Because of Republican AND Democrat bullies.
another winning post from the downvote king.
another winning post from the downvote king.
If speaking truth to power and challenging the status quo makes me the “downvote king,” then I gladly accept the crown.
Brothers and sisters who fear the kind of bullying I face, wear your downvotes like a badge of honor, just as I do. Every downvote is a sign that the capitalist defenders are feeling the pressure of our righteous cause—and that, my friends, is how you know we’re on the right path.
another winning post from the downvote king.
So I’ll keep posting. Thanks!
More like the bad faith actor king. Good job helping Republicans. You can feign ignorance but the proof is in the pudding.
More like the bad faith actor king. Good job helping Republicans. You can feign ignorance but the proof is in the pudding.
Ah, the old accusation of bad faith—a tired tactic used by those who can’t stand to see the working class rise up against the status quo.
You call me the “bad faith actor king,” but I say it’s those who cling to a broken system who are acting in bad faith.
I’m not here to play by the rules set by the very forces that oppress us; I’m here to shatter those chains and expose the truth.
If standing up for workers’ rights and challenging the duopoly makes me a threat to your cozy alliance with the establishment, then I wear your insults like armor.
The proof isn’t in the pudding, my friend—it’s in the political revolution that’s building momentum. It might not happen this election or the next, but rest assured, people are growing weary of the duopoly. We won’t be bullied into submission, and we won’t stop fighting for true change.
And we’re not voting for your candidate. Or for the republicans.
More like the bad faith actor king. Good job helping Republicans. You can feign ignorance but the proof is in the pudding.
Yeah? If I was helping the Republicans, I’d vote for them. How do you think I’m helping Republicans? On fucking Lemmy which practically worships democrat party or is working extra hard to keep the current broken duopoly in place?
Or wait, is it the almost 200 anti-Republican/pro-socialist posts and comments I’ve made to my c/socialist community? Because Republicans are sooooooooo socialist.
Wait, is it the 16 non-republican Lemmy communities that I’ve started and mod that are also non-republican? Most of which aren’t even political. Because Republicans are sooooooo pro-trans and pro-education.
Wait, is it the over 641 non-republican posts I’ve made? Or is it the 1,000+ anti-republican comments I’ve made arguing with pro-duopoly people such as yourself?
Wait, is it the fact that I actually am a registered socialist and donate money to the socialist parties? Cuz again, Republicans or soooooo socialist.
I’m starting to doubt your good intentions here. You seem pretty anti-democratic in your comments.
