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So we need better federated hosting…

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I’d love to be able to “seed” the fediverse through p2p hosting of some sort. I’d set aside 1 TB of storage and 20 MB/s for that.

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Yeah I’ve thought a tiny bit about this but it gets dodgy with things like csam.

How do we address some one uploading stuff that would get you arrested?

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I would hav thought stuff like Lemmy would have configurations to eg.: not allow to upload images locally, only hotlink.

Anyway, an alternative is “zero knowledge” storage, where you don’t know what you are storing (hence, you can’t “choose” what to host or not host either). Another alternative is disjoint storage, where two different servers store different halves of a file (eg.: an Odd Bytes server and an Even Bytes server), but this means now it’s necessary to hit more servers to recover a file.

But the sensible thing to do IMO is to apply “common carrier” concept. The water distribution company is not, to my knowledge, held liable when something happens like you fill a bucket of water and share it with someone else.

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Probably arrange it such that not one person/server knows what the stored bytes are. There can be a server where the bytes/blocks get reconstructed where one can check for the bad stuff.

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There’s gotta be some kind of limited liability for this kind of thing. I mean, banks wouldn’t be liable if someone put csam in a safe deposit box or (assuming they don’t x-ray packages) UPS shipping csam in a sealed package. I think there just needs to be reasonable safeguards against it but I don’t know if any of that is built into the software.

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Depending on if you have DMCA safe harbor protection

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Maybe nobody keeps a complete file? That way no one machine can keep a complete copy of anything let alone access it if it was stored in a single chunk of storage cryptographically? There’s already so much risk for hosts here not sure there’s a way to be safer without invasive technologies.

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That makes total sense. And I would guess decentralized hosting or federated hosting couldn’t meet this need?

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Omg that would be peak 🥹

Edit: autocorrect :/

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but is concerned about hosting fees for serving images to millions of people

People stopped caring about image bandwidth decades ago. Try wrangling a video-hosting problem, like PeerTube does.

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“Millions of people” if only…

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Mastodon has a couple million ADUs

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Are you sure about that? Joinmastodon indicates 819k MAU, would you have a source you can share ?

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Looks like I’m out of date

https://mastodon-analytics.com/

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Hell Yeah, Newgrounds is blocked in my country. But if they added Activity Pub it will solve the problem for me.

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It would just federate comments I think, you’d still need to go to the site for the media

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What country blocks new grounds of all things?

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India

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