31 points

So we need better federated hosting…

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I’d love to be able to “seed” the fediverse through p2p hosting of some sort. I’d set aside 1 TB of storage and 20 MB/s for that.

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Yeah I’ve thought a tiny bit about this but it gets dodgy with things like csam.

How do we address some one uploading stuff that would get you arrested?

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Maybe nobody keeps a complete file? That way no one machine can keep a complete copy of anything let alone access it if it was stored in a single chunk of storage cryptographically? There’s already so much risk for hosts here not sure there’s a way to be safer without invasive technologies.

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Probably arrange it such that not one person/server knows what the stored bytes are. There can be a server where the bytes/blocks get reconstructed where one can check for the bad stuff.

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There’s gotta be some kind of limited liability for this kind of thing. I mean, banks wouldn’t be liable if someone put csam in a safe deposit box or (assuming they don’t x-ray packages) UPS shipping csam in a sealed package. I think there just needs to be reasonable safeguards against it but I don’t know if any of that is built into the software.

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I would hav thought stuff like Lemmy would have configurations to eg.: not allow to upload images locally, only hotlink.

Anyway, an alternative is “zero knowledge” storage, where you don’t know what you are storing (hence, you can’t “choose” what to host or not host either). Another alternative is disjoint storage, where two different servers store different halves of a file (eg.: an Odd Bytes server and an Even Bytes server), but this means now it’s necessary to hit more servers to recover a file.

But the sensible thing to do IMO is to apply “common carrier” concept. The water distribution company is not, to my knowledge, held liable when something happens like you fill a bucket of water and share it with someone else.

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Depending on if you have DMCA safe harbor protection

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That makes total sense. And I would guess decentralized hosting or federated hosting couldn’t meet this need?

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Hell Yeah, Newgrounds is blocked in my country. But if they added Activity Pub it will solve the problem for me.

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What country blocks new grounds of all things?

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India

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It would just federate comments I think, you’d still need to go to the site for the media

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Not to mention that fediverse software still loves to occasionally hug of death a server when you post links, heh.

(Post federates to lots of servers, and lots of servers pull images/previews all at more or less once.)

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Quick, someone post “Cascade” from Homestuck and bring down the entire fediverse.

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Perhaps for images they’d have to federate just the text and a small thumbnail, and then just the people interested would click through. I wonder if that’d be enough.

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hasnt this already been solved with cdns? even if you just use it for the image hosting.

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Those cost money too

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shit costs money. cant imagine wanting to stand up a server/instance/whatevs with no hosting costs.

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Not no hosting cost, but cost for things you don’t want or need. I would host a server if it only filled up with things on my direct server and not pulling images and posts from other servers

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TIL Newgrounds still exists.

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I assume the success of Friday Night Funkin’ gave it some extra life.

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There’s also a lot of porn

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Friday Night Fuckin’ as well, then

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Not only does it still exist, newgrounds is unique in that it is a long-running website from the early days that is still being run by the same person (never bought out or sold), still has no ads (despite funding issues), still has the same basic focus, still hosting the same content, and is still more or less exactly the same despite some UI changes.

Granted part of that is there hasn’t been any real pressure on it, but still.

Genuinely, it is the kind of thing that I would want to put behind glass, because it is an abnormality in this wasteland we call the internet. It’s this beautiful little corner that has been allowed to remain as it is, unmolested by the terrible bullshit around it.

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It’s feels like it’s the only site where the algorithm doesn’t kill animators.

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Shit, am I about to become a newgrounds user again after like 15 years?

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