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Would this have been an acceptable reply?:

I’m sorry you’re feeling so drained.

I’ve heard sometimes iron, B12, or vitamin D deficiencies can sometimes contribute to persistent fatigue, but whatever the cause, I hope you’re able to get the support you need to start feeling better soon.

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imo seems inappropriately formal

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One of the things that’s too often overlooked is that subtractions might do more to help than additions. If you’re taking a host of vitamins, herbal remedies, and strange supplements and still feeling like shit, it’s likely because all the medicine in the world won’t heal if you’re still taking poison.

Not to be that person, but I am fully convinced that eating animal products plays a decisive role in depression and other mood disorders. Not only is there science pointing in that direction, but it matches my own personal experience as well as what every other plant-based person I’ve known has experienced as well. Before the switch I was so far in a constant background noise of depression that I was ambivalent about whether I wanted to live or not.

I’ve tried a lot of things, with only ever small or temporary results at best. Going plant-based, within weeks of staying consistent with it, marked the first time in my life when I actually began to actively want to live (even in spite of our capitalist hellscape). That desire to live has endured since then to the point that it’s tempting to say I might be cured of depression.

https://nutritionfacts.org/video/anti-inflammatory-diet-for-depression/

https://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-to-boost-brain-bdnf-levels-for-depression-treatment/

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16 points

Not to be that person,

Proceeds to be that person

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-7 points

When something needs to be said, it needs to be said.

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3 points

You may believe depression is caused by not being vegan, but I believe depression is caused by the presence of vegans.

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Perhaps you had an imbalance of vitamin a. Plant based vitamin a (beta carotene) is safe and can’t really be overdosed. Plant based diets tend to have more vitamin e in them as well, and vitamin e sort of counteracts vitamin a.

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The sheer amount of changes that occur on a plant-based diet are too numerous for me to be able to pinpoint any specific thing. It wouldn’t surprise me if I do get more vitamin a these days, as well as quite a few other important micronutrients that I may or may not have been low on.

And that’s not even getting into the vast topic of phytonutrients.

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FWIW I already take these vitamins daily, along with magnesium, zinc, copper, folate, manganese, boron, St. John’s Wort, Ashwagandha, Tumeric, SAM-e, Saffron, Kratom, Ginko Baloba, L-theanine, along with a nightly dose of Valerian Root, L-Tryptophan, lemon balm extract, 5-HTP, and 500+ mg of a high THC extract, and I’m still tired and miserable all the time.

Even walking 20k+ steps a day at my job isn’t enough. I’ve never been healthier and more depressed. Tried therapy for a decade but gave up when I couldn’t find a single therapist I can relate with. Not even pharmaceuticals helped me. I’ve accepted the fact that I am just going to be perpetually tired and miserable for the rest of my life and there’s nothing anyone can do to help.

(FWIW I don’t take kratom daily. Only at work. And the dosage of THC can range from as low as 100mg all the way up to a full gram of pure THC distillate. Yes these are accurate numbers. I live in a legal state and can get distillate for $5/g. I have a high tolerance and don’t get high anymore; just sleepy. If I don’t have any THC in my system, I can’t sleep at all no matter how tired I am. The insomnia was hell until I discovered weed in my 20s).

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27 points

Maybe cut out the THC? It’s a depressant.

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17 points

I think this person is on the opposite end and is overwhelming him/herself with too much supplements…

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10 points

It’s a very common sign of addiction to try every supplement under the sun instead of just addressing the cessation of substance abuse because that’s a much more challenging hill to climb.

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5 points

You don’t think they started out tired all the time with no supplements and then slowly added them to try it out?

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6 points

Kratom is not a health supplement.

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9 points

Nor is pot. This guy is abusing drugs and asking why he’s depressed.

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I don’t even believe they took 0.5g of THC, that’s an insane amount. Unless they mean over a long period of time. The standard dose you can buy is 10mg.

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I know but it’s the only way I can feel joy. Before I discovered kratom I never knew what it felt like to smile.

FWIW I only take it on the days really need it (so basically only at work).

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10 points

500+ mg THC? That’s a lot.

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7 points

And he doesn’t understand why he’s always tired

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Makes me wonder if it was a typo, but even 50+ mg is quite a bit.

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2 points

Only at night and I have a high tolerance

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Honestly I think it’s most likely that you’re simply overworked. (many/most people are)

I think that being overworked, together with emotional instability/lack of security, are the most prevalent causes of mental illnesses in our society today. It’s no “chemical imbalance in your brain” story. Sure, there’s chemical imbalance, but where does that imbalance come from? I guess it’s mostly that our bodies aren’t built for today’s demands.

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Have you tried having a sleep study done? Sometimes your body can go through the sleep cycles weird, or they get interupted resulting in being really tired all the time. A sleep specialist can see what’s going on and help you fix it.

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Who’s going to pay for it? I don’t have the thousands to fork over for a sleep study.

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That’s why I added if you have the means, I absolutely understand if you don’t. I just had a tooth extracted that was overdue by a few years. Just didn’t have the money to get it filled before it cracked in half and I was in excruciating pain for months. I get it.

Maybe try a community health center if you have one near you? They usually do a sliding scale and can make referrals to doctors who work with uninsured or under-insured people. That’s how I got my tooth taken care of without being thousands in debt after. Just google “community health centers near 'name of town & state.” That is if you feel like pursuing it. Totally get it if you don’t, but the above info can help with other health related issues too.

Either way, I hope even a little of that info is helpful to you. I fucking hate healthcare that’s useless AND expensive. Wishing you the best.

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I’m all for people trying, so agree with this.

But my experience: I haven’t had a good night’s sleep in 10 years (wake up and am half-asleep, half-awake most of the night). I went to a sleep study, did the sleep-in-hospital-with-electrodes-everywhere thing, met with three doctors in series after, and their conclusion was that I should sleep more. I wish I was joking.

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Ugh. Sometimes I think drs just say “it’s all in your head” as an easy way to handwave people out the door. They get paid regardless if they solve your problem or not. I’m sorry that happened to you. If you aren’t sleeping well that’s an issue. Any sleep specialist worth their salt knows this.

It took me about 10 years to get my diagnosis so I feel this. If you have the means maybe seek out a different sleep specialist and do a second test under that one. It’s frustrating that to need to do that, but unfortunately that’s what it comes to when you run into asshole doctors who don’t care, don’t bother listen, or just assume your a moron and your suffering is your own doing.

Best luck to you! I hope you get it figured out and find some relief soon

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Try hiking a couple of days, better a week. I’m serious: Actually being outside for the whole day re-calibrates the circadian rhythm, and actually being active before going to bed makes sleeping way easier. Just don’t make the mistake of setting yourself kilometre goals.

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Did you take their advice? I’m regrettably a person who needs more like 9 to 10 hours of sleep, which is great because I love sleeping, but terrible because I love doing stuff.

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My sibling in science, I have consumed enough weed in my life to earn me an approving nod from Snoop himself, but on the off chance you’re not shitposting:

500mg is entirely too much for a nighttime dose. You are not getting any proper REM sleep at all if you’re actually doing this to yourself every night. Take a fuckin T-break man.

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8 points

I think ashwaganda is not supposed to be taken daily long term

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It can be but you should Tay away from stuff that isn’t just ground root powder as the “supplements” people sell that contain it can lead to liver damage over time, however the only cases of liver damage with ashwaghanda afaik are from extracts and gummies and shit.

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Thanks for this. I don’t feel like it doesn’t do much for me anyway compared to the other shit I take so I will probably eliminate it from my suppliment routine.

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2 points

She should try shutting the cats out of the bedroom sometimes.

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NGL, I’ve spent a decade wondering why I couldn’t sleep at night and couldn’t concentrate all day, only to finally realize I was constantly low on electrolytes because of my intense exercise routine.

And if anyone is wondering, sports drinks are worthless sugary drinks shrouded in “sporty” marketing. Vitamin D, Calcium and Magnesium is what helped me (and are far more cost efficient than sports drinks). Consult a doctor.

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There are low sugar sports drinks. Most of the electrolytes they’re advertising is just salt. Your body needs salt to function. You lose salt when you sweat.

My doctor told me I come literally just put some table salt in water and it would do just as well as any sports drink, sugar or no.

I work in a physical environment and they hand out electrolyte packets and Gatorade like candy when it gets hot.

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I make my own with a 1:1 mix of potassium chloride and sodium chloride. Throw in a dash of lime (I use a powder so i can premix.) I just add dash to my water when I need electrolytes.

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I love the electrolit cucumber lime. Not so much sugar. Water is still my main drink though.

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For me, it’s pickle juice.

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Potassium is also an important electrolyte for heart health, so have a banana with your salt water, if you can. source: https://www.cdc.gov/salt/sodium-potassium-health/index.html

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2 points

Coconut water has a lot more potassium than a banana

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1 point

Drip drops help me, body amours aren’t enough. I want to try LMNT. Or some other brands.

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They sometimes tell them together in 1 pill.

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