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AI is making art right now

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That is not ‘art’; that is Borg slop cobbled together from the mass-stolen, mashed regurgitate of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of independent artists. Your AI slop is taking money out of the pockets of millions of independent artists, writers, and musicians the world over. Your AI slop is anti-social.

Silicon Valley will not save you after it’s rifled all of our pockets.

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No, people using AI are making art right now. You just can’t tell an LLM: “Hey, make an art!”

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Actually you can. That’s exactly how stable diffusion works.

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I think that really depends how you define art…which I think is the point of the article.

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A thought provoking work that conveys a strong emotion or sense.

As there are many AI images that involve a sense of beauty, disgust, wonder, hatred, or intrigue; yes.

AI is creating art.

Any definition that tries to exclude AI art must jump through hoops to explain why the restriction doesn’t also apply to traditional works. And if your definition has to twist itself and constantly make exceptions, then it’s just a poor definition.

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Your interpretation of what is art is based on the perspective of the viewer. The article seems to be defining it more in the context of the creating and the intentions/choices behind the creation. Both are valid.

If AI generated images are art, then a naturally occurring crystal cave that elicits a sense of awe is also art. Maybe that’s true, I just think it has more to do with how you define art than some objective reality of what is ‘art’.

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it’s beautiful and I like it. Good enough for me.

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Almost like it’s a tool that humans can use

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It would be if it wasn’t fruit of a poison tree of industrial mass-scale theft. Like, how the fuck is piracy wrong for us but these OpenAI and Microsoft cucks get to slide? Nah; I don’t accept this until either ethical models exist and are the enforced mainstream, or until piracy is no longer prosecuted

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all this is under the assumption that ai will only remain as text to imagine generator and their whole argument is that artist makes a lot of choises and you can’t add all that choises in a limited prompt length now what if the context length of future ai systems become big enough that someone who is not artist can also do all the choises? i mean artists are human they have limit on human capability they can only make some choises, but ai is math equation there is no limit, in current day we have context length limitations purely because of compute limitations and that’s not a fundamental problem of ai.

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If an artist picks specific prompts to make an AI picture how is it not art? AI is a new type of paint artists can use 🤷

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There’s a Douglas Hofstadter book, Le Ton Beau de Marot, which is all about the art of translation. Specifically one poem by Marot, translated over and over again.

In the book, he convincingly makes the case that translation always has choices that must be made, and in translating a poem, choices must be made about which parts of the original must be held strictly to and which are open to interpretation. Rhyme, meter, structure, tone, etc.

It’s a fascinating book, really.

So is the art the product or the intentional process? That’s the core question here.

Because computers can and do translate, and there are choices made along the way.

Are those choices made? Are they made with intent?

And if they are, does that intent qualify as artistic?

It’s a neat question and not easily discarded.

We had a similar issue a few years back. Who owns a macaque’s photography? Are they the artist, or the person who gave them a camera?

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