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If I use this to fertilize my veggies, are they still vegan?

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Two factors to consider id say. Blood isn’t the only organic source of nitrogen so it’s not as if its necessary, thus I’d wager many vegans would consider it unnecessary animal suffering, at least in theory. However the caveat, and second factor, would be blood is byproduct, no ones killing the animals in order to obtain blood meal so many people including vegans may think it more ethical to not let it go to waste since weather or not there’s a demand for blood meal, there will still be animal blood that needs to be disposed of.

Strictly dietarialy, yes they would still be vegan. All soil is full of countless formless decomposed animals and plants, it’s an inescapable reality of how the soil came to be. It can only get more ethically involved when you choose to add it yourself imo.

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That second point would require intimate knowledge about which animal parts would be disposed of if they didn’t find a buyer.
In reality, everything is used. If there wasn’t a market for part of an animal, a use was found and a market created (which is part of the reason why industrially produced white sugar, beer, wine, apple juice, potato chips and bread usually aren’t vegan).

Anyway, vegans usually don’t care about whether an animal product could be leftover. Their philosophy boils down to “Just fucking leave animals in peace.”

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Their philosophy boils down to “Just fucking leave animals in peace.”

It’s more complicated than that unless you don’t understand how many animals die when you clear farmland. Every crop you eat came at a cost to animals, if there’s no amount you deem acceptable or unavoidable your only option is to exclusively eat food you grew yourself, and that still alters the environment to be less favorable to animals, you just don’t directly kill them like large scale farms do.

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Even honey isn’t okay with some (I have no idea the %, could be most or just a small number) of vegans. So regardless of how the blood was obtained, there is at least some who would not consider it vegan.

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Whether or not. Not weather.

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There are vegan blood meal alternatives out there to resolve this exact conundrum.

But the reality is, unless your plants are being grown hydroponically in a sealed warehouse or similar, chances are real good that they are feeding on decaying animals (either directly or indirectly) whether you like it or not. They’re mostly insects and annelids and such, but still animals.

I think the issue for vegans is more about whether animal slaughter was involved in making their fertilizer. Dead pillbugs in the soil is just nature doing its cycle of life thing.

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Humans are just as much part of nature as everything else

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a common definition of nature is the stuff that is untouched by humans.

as wiktionary puts it:

flora and fauna as distinct from human conventions, art, and technology

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If i see you get attacked by wild animals i guess i won’t try to help you, wouldn’t want to go against nature or anything

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The issue for vegans is whether animal slaughter was involved and whether they supported it with their purchase.

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Its easiest to treat paying for something the same as doing it firsthand.

It gets really strange to find the line that separates how far away from an immoral act you need to be to be considered moral still. In the same room? In the same building? What if you don’t explicitly ask someone to do the immoral thing, and only ask for the remains of it?

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Life feeds on life feeds on life, plants don’t care how you died just how your nutrients are able to be absorbed.

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Doesn’t have to be hydroponics, using coco coir instead of soil will also fix that issue

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Instant coffee for Vampires

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As a vampire I finally found a use for my expresso machine

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I love the idea of a vampire having kitchen appliances for which they have no use just like regular people.

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“Just because I am over 3000 years old, and a creature of the night abandoned by all that once brought comfort, doesn’t mean I don’t entertain.”

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Espresso with an S!

It’s counterintuitive since making an espresso shot with a warmed up machine is quite fast. 😜

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The best part of waaaking up…

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I feel like the tumblr user asking why it’s necessary to tell people not to eat blood meal must have forgotten they’re on tumblr. The whole site is just smut curated by the generation that turned eating tide pods into a meme.

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Uhm, hello, it says blood MEAL, so of course it’s made to be eaten.

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In that case you’re gonna love bone meal.

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Look, how else am I supposed to prepare for the skeleton war?

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And TBF if it were actually just dried blood with no additives then it wouldn’t be so bad.

Still not recommended, but not as bad.

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Is this an US thing? I’m fairly certain I’ve never seen that in Germany

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No, you can find this in garden shops in Europe.

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Let me introduce you to blood sausages…

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Ya, I assumed this was like instant mash for blood pudding. Probably would have second guessed it if I saw it in the gardening aisle, though.

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