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Yup, quality post we got here guys. I haven’t even had a cup of coffee yet.
Look, if we in ‘fuckcars’ can’t agree on entirely reasonable things like setting fire to cars parked in bike lanes, what are we even doing? 😂
Personally I like both ideas, I say we do a trial run for the next year and we can tally up the score then.
Who’s in?
The moment the protestors barricade your doors and physically prevent you from leaving your vehicle.
The same point where you are detained for kidnapping for forcing the other cars to stop in traffic.
Next time there is a jam, just throw everyone in jail for kidnapping each other.
The difference between a traffic jam and protestors blocking traffic is intent.
I take it none of you passed high school civics?
If you know there’s going to be a traffic jam at 5PM on the I-Fuckit, aggravated by your presence, is that not intent or, at the very least, gross negligence?
I would say the very second passenger car traffic exceeds the environmental impact of the cruise industry. How much environmental damage does Carnival Cruise Lines do compared to all the highway traffic in the United States? We’re talking an entirely recreational industry here, if all cruise ships disappeared tomorrow society would keep right on rolling. Cases of norovirus would decrease.
You want passenger rail to increase in the United States? Great. Let’s start with Amtrak’s website. I live within walking distance of an active Amtrak station. Several times in my life I’ve had a want or need to travel cross country, and it occurred to me “I wonder if I could take the train.” The answer, inevitably, is no. I go to Amtrak’s website, pick a starting station and a destination station, and usually they outright can’t plan a trip between those locations. Not even capable of saying things like “take the Silver Star to Grand Central station in New York, wait 8 hours, then take the Lake Shore Limited to Chicago.” It proved to be less work on my part to drive, fly as a passenger on an airliner, and fly as pilot of a Cessna, than take the train in this country.
And what part of that is my personal fault?
Oh, well, if others are worse then I guess you’re not doing anything wrong.
Nothing’s stopping a driver from getting out of their car and walking away. So never.
No. It would be robbery if they stole your car. If you had to leave your vehicle and walk away, and your vehicle was subsequently towed, you might be able to sue them in court for the cost of towing and impounding your vehicle and maybe something for your time. But never would it arise to kidnapping or theft as a criminal matter. You are not your vehicle. It is only kidnapping or false imprisonment if you, your own physical person, are prohibited from leaving.
Or maybe everybody should breathe through their pants, calm down a bit, share the road, that kinda stuff.
The largest single project in the world is the US National Highway System, and yet, somehow, all our public transit and trans-national train services suck.
You must love your car so much.
Teenagers took over lemmy, clearly.
“Bbut he said …, and then I said …, ha!”
I wish I was a teenager. I’m as far from a teenager as a teenager is from an infant! Obviously you’ve never been in a bike lane, a car parked in front of you, dense traffic whizzing by to the left of you. If you had, you want to start setting things on fire as well.
I don’t. I want regulations and fines.
But where I live you will get a hefty fine for parking in a bike lane, and after some repeated offenses you’ll be sent for a driver’s re-education with your license being suspended till you’re done. So, I do occasionally see a car being parked in a bike lane. And I don’t wanna burn them. I remember I voted for the right party in the last elections, and that I live in the country where law and order prevail, and that the douche will get what he deserves.
In the meantime drivers around me have the ability to see that my lane is blocked, and I have the ability to signal with my hand that I need to merge. We respectfully resolve me cycling around the parked car and I continue my journey.
It appears to me you live in a place where laws really don’t work, and so you feel desperate enough to justify property damage to those who don’t abide by some laws that you find very important. It’s a very dangerous trope. And it rarely leads to better societies.
Sure. But that assumes police see cyclists as human beings rather than vermin that deserve to be run over. And in my experience, that is usually not the case. It is rare for a driver to get so much as a ticket for murdering a cyclist with their vehicle. Hell, half the time the vehicle parked in the bike lane is a police cruiser. And most cops are so obese they would crush any bicycle they tried to ride.
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