No I cannot afford it, I had surprise financial emergency this month.

But seriously, either make the whole thing free or paid, don’t get my hopes up only to dash them like that.

2 points

This is a wild take.

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There are free adventures, though.

https://paizo.com/store/pathfinder/society/resources

https://paizo.com/store/pathfinder/adventures/standalone/freeRPGDay

Also, there are often handfuls of sets available on humble bundle for dirt cheap.

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op is talking about starfinder though

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Oh, wow. My brain totally read it as pathfinder. Thanks.

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yeah mine too, i only realised it wasnt pathfinder after i saw another comment talking like it was a different system and i double checked

edit: and also the post is talking about a starter set for starfinder, which doesnt exist (they were probably talking about the playtest but said starter set for some reason)

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97 points

The rules are free. The stories are paid. I think that is more than fair.

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I don’t think I’ve ever played an official story from any system? Why would I want to do that when I can make my own? I’m not going to look down on those that choose to run official stories, but I absolutely am going to look down on those who think the games are unplayable without them.

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For someone who hasn’t DMd before, a premade adventure makes it a hell of a lot easier to learn how to structure it. For someone who has DMd before, a premade adventure makes running the game a lot easier

I compare it to using MechJeb in KSP. If you can’t do without it, use it. If you can do without it but you want to save the time and energy, use it.

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I do like to have an adventure that shows me how basic beats of the game are supposed to sync up and how its suppsoed to be balanced, instead of having to guess based on the theory. Do you also look down on people who say your kid’s first bike should have training wheels?

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No. But I would look down on people that say that any bike that doesn’t have training wheels is unrideable.

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I haven’t run one of their stories, but I’ve bought a few to get the structure for my own down. Making sure I have things like levels, traps, challenges, and rewards lined up with time spent in the adventure. But as far as storylines go, I love writing my own too much.

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Also, if it’s anything like Pathfinder there is a vast resource of free monsters and rules that allow anyone to quickly assemble campaign materials themselves. Alternately there are third party adventures as well, though many are also behind paywalls on Patreon and other funding sites to, you know, compensate creators for doing the work.

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Pre built campaigns are important too though because GMs need to know what they’re supposed to look like before they can make their own.

This is more of a dig at FATE because I couldn’t find any starter adventures for it lmao.

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FWIW, it’s not a starter set, it’s a playtest. It’s stress testing things, and leaning on Pathfinder assets. You’re not missing out on the full meal deal right now.

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I feel like that actually makes it worse. Making people pay to be playtesters? Last I knew playtesting was a job.

I haven’t really looked into it at all because I’m not interested, but do they at least state that you’ll get the updated material that you paid for when it releases?

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You’re misreading. The starter set (aka the free bit) is part of the playtest

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Right, but the OP says the starter adventure is behind a paywall.

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I know some of the union leaders at UPW, including one of the Paizo writers that may have worked on the starter adventure (I don’t know for certain). They’re incredibly passionate about their work, and honestly would understand your frustrations about capitalism. They likely pushed to make as much as possible free, so folks in your position would still be able to share the joy of their work even if they can’t afford the starter adventure.

I know none of this will make your frustration go away, but I hope you know that they didn’t do it out of malice.

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Thait is reassuring, thank you

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