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And, the cashiers can sit down. Which makes sense.

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cashiers aren’t allowed to sit in usa?

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54 points

Only office workers and managers are allowed to sit. If you’re in a customer-facing position with a chair, you’re supposed to stand up when helping a customer.

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And as we all know, middle management does so much work and therefore deserve that right over everyone else.

(sorry I vomited in my mouth a little bit)

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7 points

When I worked retail, at one of the stores you weren’t allowed to drink water where customers could see you. I chose to ignore that rule and only got chewed out when the store owner happened to be nearby

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Cashier stations with chairs are VERY rare, yes. The general trope is that managers/owners think it makes workers appear lazy.

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Not at most places. At some point, someone told all the MBAs that it makes the customers mad if the employees look lazy or some shit.

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They also tend to make them stand at the beginning of their lane when they don’t have customers. Apparently a light signaling that they are available just isn’t enough.

Edit: My bad. I’ve never seen this at Aldi or Lidl. Just other US chains like Food Lion.

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21 points

No, and even worse “if you have time to lean, you have time to clean”

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Well, turns out I do have PTSD from a decade of working retail and food service. So thanks for that lol

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5 points

(to manager in response) “then why the fuck aren’t you cleaning all the time, then?”

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14 points

In California, companies are required by law to provide them seating and let them sit down, but most everywhere else they are expected to stand.

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14 points

It’s this bizarre thing. Management want them to “look busy” or some bullshit. Aldi looks busy.

You’ll see this on some factory floors too. No chairs even for the management or QA logging numbers on computers. Chairs are for break time or some such.

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Depends on the company and plant. Not to brag on my Corporate overloads as they’ve gaslit employees and poisoned the global water supply, but they do a good job of making production’s life tolerable enough (above average pay for the area, regular Kaizens for them to voice their opinions, good safety culture, keeping up 5s) that people want to work for them.

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Corporations make that decision. And our country allows (if not encourages) it.

Yes, seriously. Same goes with drinking water behind the counter.

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9 points

Other than Aldi, pretty much no.

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5 points

Aldi is the only place I’ve seen. However, Aldi recently started installing self checkout, which I despise.

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9 points

I love good self checkouts. I hate bad self checkouts.

Bad self checkouts are those that alert the sole employee running around between twenty terminals of some discrepancy for every fucking thing. Weight discrepancy! Remove duplicate item! They didn’t select number of bags! Check their receit!

Just leave me be and let me scan my flatbread and leave already. Or open another cashier. Or just don’t implement self-checkout if it’s not really self-checkout.

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We don’t have it in Australia either apart from Aldi.

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Cashier stations with chairs are VERY rare, yes. The general trope is that managers/owners think it makes workers appear lazy.

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Cashier stations with chairs are VERY rare, yes. The general trope is that managers/owners think it makes workers appear lazy.

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5 points

You might want to repeat that a few more times for the people in the back of the room.

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cashiers aren’t allowed to sit in USA?

Not in any stores I have seen in my city.

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67 points

good for them. that’s how you get quality workers and reduce turnover

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11 points

They’re finally catching up with my local burger chain that offers health insurance, tuition, etc. Also in the US.

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2 points

What burger chain?

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Dick’s. You can get a bag of dick’s from a decently compensated person.

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51 points

“up to $23 an hour”… Doing a whole lotta heavy lifting in this headline.

How is it sane to list the maximum you can make, vs what to expect day 1?!

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30 points

It reads like the minimum went from $18 to $23. So the minimum is up from $18, to $23.

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16 points

Aldi announced that it it looking to hire thousands of new workers, as well as increasing their minimum wage to $18 and $23 an hour.

My read on this, is that they are discussing the minimum for two separate positions. Potentially cashier and team leader. Would make sense as they don’t have many employees on shift at a time.

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8 points

Ah that could be. Either way, $23 isn’t the max

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4 points

Should have kept reading:

The national average starting wages for Aldi workers will be set at $18 an hour and $23 an hour for warehouse workers.

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I hope so. It would be a nice change compared to… Well… Everything.

Edit: ahhhh see it now. I read it as “up to” alone, but implied “increased to” instead.

English is hard sometimes.

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10 points

It really is. The fact “up to” can mean either a maximum value, or an increase to a value, is stupid.

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2 points

Minimum does not mean “up to”.

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9 points

That’s just being read wrong, it’s not written like a “save up to $10” kind of line. The “up” just describes the change (i.e. ‘the starting wage is going up; becoming $X’). Within the article, it’s completely unambiguous:

The national average starting wages for Aldi workers will be set at $18 an hour and $23 an hour for warehouse workers.

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The article says that those are the starting wages, for store and warehouse, respectively.

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36 points

One opened in my city, only Aldi within 50 miles. It is always packed and both of the major regional grocers have raised their “now hiring” wages several dollars, run much more aggressive deals, and their parking lots are maybe 4/5ths as full as they were a month ago.

Which is great for me because I’ve been to several Aldis and realized it just isn’t for me. Being one guy with a pretty weak appetite, the actual dollar savings don’t really come out to much for me (maybe -$10 versus a major grocer if I’m really stocking up), and the “Aldi Experience” doesn’t really mesh with how I buy food. It’s still great to have them in the market, though.

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23 points

Their produce is always super cheap. Same strawberries I’d get at Ralph’s (Kroger) for $4.99 I can get at Aldi for around $1.70

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4 points

Their produce is great. I’d like to see them move away from factory farm eggs, milk and meat.

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22 points

Aldi had me at “we let our cashiers sit down.”

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And let me guess…“somehow”, they haven’t had to hack up their prices after raising wages, huh?

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No but the CEO had to cut down to just one new AMG Merc per year. It’s a doggy dog world out there

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10 points

It’s “dog eat dog world”

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You’re joking, but quite possibly he’d not even want to buy the one.

The owner family is very reclusive after a kidnapping in the 70s - but we know at least that the founders were living relatively frugal.

Ownership of Aldi is by a handful of “stiftungen” - and one of the more recent judicial squabbles in the family were of one side accusing the other trying to pull more money out of Aldi than necessary to live a non frugal livestyle.

Don’t get me wrong - they’re billonaires, though probably quite limited liquid assets. But based on their behaviour they have a good chance to survive the revolution.

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4 points

I’m weeping having learned this

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Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morels are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a six cents when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn’t take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It’s clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the fax. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother’s mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.

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2 points

Dog eat dog?

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4 points

I’m lucky to have Aldi as my closest grocery store.

I do end up going to another half the time not because I don’t want to go to Aldi, but because I just need one odd ingredient I don’t think they’ll have.

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It is telling that Aldi is successfully expanding in the USA while keeping the same model that made it big in its home market of Germany and the rest of Europe.

When Walmart tried to gain a foothold in Germany, it hemorrhaged billions before giving up. The managers responsible covered their asses with bullshit about cultural differences or unions, but the truth is that they just couldn’t offer competitive prices. Looks like, even in the US, shoppers favor low prices over wasteful frills like greeters.

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Greeters are literally a charitable expense (that they’ve mostly replaced with security goons) the wasteful frills in Walmart are executive compensation and benefits.

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hahahah right? I was like ‘uh…I don’t think that’s where all the money’s disappearing to my guy…’

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You think the managers at Aldi work for the satisfying feeling of serving their community or what? Aldi cut costs in any way possible and greeters are simply a very visible way.

Aldi isn’t really a direct competitor of Walmart. There are other more similar (hypermarket) chains in Germany that directly offered the same as Walmart. For its attempt to enter the german market, Walmart bought up a bankrupt chain of such hypermarkets. The stores were in worse locations than those of their competitors. Basically, it was unwanted left-overs. The Walmart, closest to me, was right next to its competitors but on the far side. It was just a little less convenient. If they had been able to offer better prices or quality, that might have made it worth it. But they couldn’t. There were only greeters and packagers.

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Yes please, we need more competition on groceries in rural Texas and also Arkansas as an extra special sort of fuck you to Walmart.

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