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Man, the kids were really prophetic with their slang. I’m from Michigan, so I’ve always been biased against Ohio, but goddamn if they don’t give reasons to be.

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Hell, I’m IN Ohio and I agree. Outside of a few places, the majority of Ohio sucks.

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The closest I’ve ever been to a bar fight was while checking in to a hotel in Ohio.

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Real. What the fuck is there to do in Ohio other than drugs.

Cedar point doesn’t count. As a Michigander I do not recognize Ohio’s claim over Toledo.

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Leave

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Ohio guy here! I definitely used to go to Cesar Point every year as a kid, but now I just do drugs and dance. You can totally dance in Ohio!

Also you’re gonna have to fight me for Toledo.

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Ohio here. They put blue masking tape around the yellow lines on the floor at work so they can repaint them and I felt obliged to sneer a little bit.

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182 points

Like amplify the false rumor a random Facebook mom in Ohio started?

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You’re pointing at a thing our own politicians and billionaires are currently doing and going “What if Russia did it too”.

Understanding that the media amplifies particular stories to promote a perspective that is in their interest and against your own doesn’t require the addition of a foreign power, that just muddies the issue.

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Russia buying some facebook ads is utterly inconsequential next to the rest of FB, Fox, CNN, Reddit, and every other propaganda outlet directed at us by the capitalist class.

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5 points

You’re not really addressing what they said, thouoh. A Wikipedia article doesn’t make their statement incorrect.

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46 points

Why not both.jpg

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In September 2017, Facebook told congressional investigators it had discovered that hundreds of fake accounts linked to a Russian troll farm had bought $100,000 in advertisements targeting the 2016 U.S.

That year, CNN, Fox, and others spent billions influencing Americans.

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Those politicians and billionaires who have very, shall we say, friendly thoughts about Russia?

Now, why do you think that is?

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Because peace is more popular than war. I assure you the western capitalist class haven’t been outbid by the Russians, although the distinction between western international bourgeoisie and Russian national bourgeoisie is complex.

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The tone is all wrong.

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Yeah, I kinda suck at rhetoric. What’s a better way to present to people that the media pointing at foreigners exercising .001% of the malign influence they do serves to distract from the 99.99% of influence they exert? CNN wasn’t presenting wall to wall coverage of Trump in 2016 because of Russia, nor are they essentially giving republicans free advertising by accepting their framing on crime and foreign policy in Israel right now because of Russia.

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Don’t know why you’re getting down voted. Bots and media manipulation are a thing, Russia and many governments are almost certainly doing it on different scales. But you make a good point that our own governments are doing it do, and even before social media stories were prompted or hushed up for reasons other than newsworthiness or public interest. That’s not a conspiracy theory, that’s basic media history of the last century.

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Oh man group think is really bad on Lemmy. If you are being downvoted you must have deserved it and the downvotea keep coming and upvoted means right and so upvoted. It’s all initial inertia.

Echo chambers work really fast here I have found.

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Yeah there’s a gulf of difference between what U.S. politicians and billionaires are attempting to do vs what the Russian oligarchs/politicians have already done.

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21 points

What they do is retweet moms in Ohio

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It’s moms in Ohio all the way down.

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I mean, they don’t just retweet them, they twist the narrative, write legitimate looking articles on legitimate looking websites that people can quote, and subtly propose civil unrest, as that’s their ultimate goal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_disinformation_website_campaigns_in_Russia

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Not “can” but “is” doing.

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Or how about a CIA agent?

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Or a Mossad agent…

Memes like this always irk me because, yes Russia is underhandedly influencing online discourse, but they are just one of many.

The Russian budget for online influence is dwarfed by the efforts of first world defense and intelligence agencies.

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