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“Oh hey, our tracking is so invasive that it is illegal in your part of the world and we are too lazy to do something about it.”

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90 points

Dodged a bullet there. Thanks EU

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I am hearing that tune in my head with teenage me playing the flute in school. I can hear the horrible screeching noises coming out from that plastic tube.

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I don’t want to link to them because fuck them, though the current top comment contains a link to that site.

The interesting thing is that you get this error message on /us while when you remove it, you get redirected to /global and there is no such message. They went out of their way to collect the data of US citizens while still complying with the GDPR for other users.

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Byjus is probably the second sussest company in India, so that checks out. They (sort of) sued banks that had lent them money for asking for it back.

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17 points

How do you sort of sue someone?

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Oh, they sued the banks, but gave some ridiculous excuse for it.

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13 points

We are too lazy greedy fucks to do something about it

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That website wants to collect and sell all the userdata without consent

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Consent? That’s just some woke word made up to damage family-owned businesses!

Them, probably.

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To be fair, the founder of the business, Byju, used to be a very ordinary school teacher and then he built this whole thing. Not family-owned, nor born rich.

Fuck their business practices though

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Or they can’t or won’t spend the time to comply to regulations of a region they might not do business in anyway.

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9 points

It’s not a business website, I opened it for some random math article.

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If they aren’t doing business in the EU, they don’t need to comply with GDPR. While it technically protects EU citizens’ data everywhere, in practice it’s not possible to govern companies that are completely outside the EU.

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Why is it basically only the EU that seems to have an interest in preventing shitty business practices.

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Because the US is controlled by corporations

Asia for the most part doesn’t care

Australia is run by right wing nut jobs

New Zealand is quiet so they probably do do something like this but we haven’t heard about it.

Japan is Japan. Civil rights isn’t really a thing.

And China and Russia love invasion of privacy it’s basically the entire basis of their countries.

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Well actshually… Australia used to be run by right-wing nutjobs. The current mob in power are centrist nut jobs.

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The power behind the throne in Australia is still right wing nut jobs and corporations

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I’m really curious (as I’m not living there) what the difference is. Is it just their religious tendencies? Or is it their feelings towards the nebulous “other” that defines them?

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I am generally curious what you mean by centrist nut jobs? The whole point of the centre is to be somewhere in the middle and therefore the best of both worlds that everyone has something in common with as far as I’m concerned

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7 points

You forgot Africa, South America, Canada, Greenland(?).

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Greenland is a part of Denmark so in the EU

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Africa is still developing so data privacy is the least of their concerns. They’re focusing on creating stable corruption free governments that don’t undergo a coup or civil war every 5 years, and having a hell of a time with that.

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I would like to point the RWNJs finally got voted out in Oz last year (federal and most states). Of course Murdoch and co. are working hard to reverse that, but semi sane leadership is in place for at least a year or two more.

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As with most things in the US, California has similar laws to the gdpr (though admittedly not as powerful), so a lot of websites are starting to change a bit in the US because of california.

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China and Russia are dictatorships meaning they do whatever the fucknthey like and if you don’t like it you might become suicidal.

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Moatly about capitalism i think. If you put on privacy restrictions, you are regulating the market, while capitalism believes that the market should regulate itself, and customers will simply stop using those websites/softwares overtime if its too bad. I find this completely delusional in the era of mega corporations, but thats the capitalistic aproach to this.

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EU is capitalist, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Maybe you’re just another person blaming everything on capitalism because that’s easier than understanding the actual problems. Might as well blame it on the prevalent system.

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Im not exactly against capitalism, but i do think that a hardcore capitalistic aproach such as the one in the US has many downsides.

Please try not to throw insults or mean assumptions. We are here to discuss.

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The EU is a social market economy. It currently slants more capitalist but nothing whatsoever stops member states from taxing the hell out of billionaires shifting it more towards market socialism.

What really doesn’t fly in the EU is the free market <-> unregulated market equivocation that peddlers of institutional market failure enjoy so much. The free market model relies on perfectly rational actors acting on perfect information, in the real world you need regulation to approach that ideal. If you want to see actually unregulated markets have a look at black ones where there’s not even regulations against offers you can’t refuse.

And that’s why the EU is legislating things like caps having to stay attached to plastic bottles: Because not doing it would allow companies to continue to externalise microplastic problems they generate and, innovation costing money, they wouldn’t do it on their own (the new caps aren’t even more expensive per piece it’s just some R&D and very small changes to bottling machines.)

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capitalism believes that the market should regulate itself

Anarcho-capitalism ⊊ capitalism.

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Because they listen to people rather than ignore them and then make policy based on how much money they can make from the deal.

This shows me the EU is actually more democratic then the US is.

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It’s much harder to pay off the lawmakers to keep the status quo when the economic area is controlled by dozens of individual governments.

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This is actually a particularly important point. The nature of the EU is laden with bureaucracy. Combined with the wide range of cultures, and the rotation of staff, it makes bribing enough people to get your way difficult. You end up needing people in multiple countries to deal with it, and the rotations make long term deals difficult.

The end result is that bribing EU bureaucracy is like trying to stop a river with just hands. It’s far less effective, letting the EU be a lot more effective (if slow).

There’s a reason so many big business interests want to break up the EU.

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Shouldn’t it be the same in the US with state and federal governments?

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Brazil also has a similar law called LGPD, I think it was made based on European GDPR

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Actually, and I’m quite proud of this, the LGPD was already being discussed before the EU’s GDPR. It may not look like it, but Brazil is at the forefront of digital protection and privacy.

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Yah, I just get Google to block these sites from ever being recommended again.

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Because they can’t do whatever they want here

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Is bribery political donations not a thing in Europe?

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I want more predatory websites to do this so that I can avoid them.

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Anyone out of the EU can VPN to an EU country and benefit.

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Some idiots keep using one of my email adresses for god knows what, ending up in me receiving newsletters and shit. Since actual user accounts are associated, I typically recover the password (since its my email adress) and then delete the account.

There are a few websites with similar restrictions though. They are completely fine sending shit to email adresses they never bothered to verify, but reject logins from countries (or even US states!) that they don’t want. Morons.

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that’s when you report as spam. that shit hurts their trust rating and makes their emails more likely to end up in people’s spam folders, pretty much killing their newsletter

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Or auto forward it to their customer service email, or company email.

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You only tell them your email is active with that.

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Oh boy, that is a great idea. Every time they email me their shitty newsletter I get to create a new support ticket telling them I don’t want it. Auto forward seems so nice.

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You forward it to them and add that you want to exercise your rights to be forgotten.

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Also report to the regulator in your jurisdiction (I believe FTC in the US) because sending unsolicited emails that the user cannot unsubscribe from is illegal in most places.

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