IBM Software mandates in-office work for employees living within 50 miles | “Software Executive Focals” will be laying down the law::undefined

80 points

“Boomer company pushes boomer policies, more at 10.”

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2 points

more at 9

The boomers are in bed by 10

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164 points

Yet another company doing RTO layoffs to avoid paying severance

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12 points

100%

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53 points

Financials coming up too. Got to make it look like they’re ‘taking action’ on poor performance.

I hate how inhumane money makes us.

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17 points

Now now, some of the executives probably sincerely miss harassing their employees.

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37 points

It’s odd too. A lot of places have offices in various cities too. So you can live in one city, and your team works in a different city or state. So their micromanaging isn’t possible since you’ll be at a completely different office. It just doesn’t make sense. So we enter the “quiet layoff” stages.

Next headline will read, “Have companies started their own version of quiet quitting by forcing employees back to the office in an effort to get them to quit or he fired.”

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13 points

Yeah my company’s office is 20 miles from where I live. I rarely go into the office, usually just for company events. Because the entire team I manage is based in India… so I would just be going into the office to have virtual meetings there instead of where I live. Thankfully they are on a fully remote policy, if they decided to change that I’d probably seek another job

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3 points

I do exactly this 3 days a week…

I would probably voluntarily go in 1-2 days a week because it’s nice to get out sometimes. However, a mandatory 3 days feels dumb.

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-7 points

Nah. The managers prefer in-office and companies are addicted to “corporate culture” which they can’t control if you’re working from home.

It has nothing to do with firing people (unless you want the most competent people to quit) nor does it have anything to do with real estate (no company will try to help fix a collective action problem voluntarily unless the attempt gives good PR or profits)

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6 points

Is there any case law on whether RTO constitutes constructive dismissal for unemployment purposes?

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98 points

You don’t triple your software output by going to the office. You can improve it by getting developers uninterrupted time with a healthy line of workable items ahead of them.

This is probably going to have the opposite effect they desire.

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29 points

Quality of life is worse, productivity is worse, it’s more expensive. It’s a nice way to increase costs.

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11 points

So many positive reasons.

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21 points

What Im realizing is that they still win even if the product gets worse. They don’t care about the product. They care about the short term gains that come from fucking around with their bottom line expenses and then presenting that to shareholders as value gain.

Modern day capitalism rewards nothing of value.

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11 points

The CEO literally has only one duty, and its fiduciary duty to the stock holders.

They can be sued and removed if they’re not doing what’s best for the shares.

That’s the biggest problem in society these days as far as I’m concerned

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5 points

Yup, incentives at publicly traded companies are way out of whack and its killing us all slowly

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4 points

And only quarter by quarter. No long term responsibility to the shareholders.

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50 points

I’m at a near FAANG sized software company and the CEO literally tells us he knows we will take a hit to productivity. Even goes as far to say “we’re profitable, this isn’t about profitability, it’s about working together”.

This is after laying off almost 10% of the company earlier this year.

They just want to be able to pin the mega offices they own onto “expenses for employees” and make the chart look better. Line goes up and all.

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11 points

I’m a senior backend coder, and there’s nothing I love more than knowing what I need to do, knowing how to do it and a day with no meetings. Everything else is garbage that needs to be minimized if you want me to work at my maximum capacity, so I have to assume anyone who adds garbage wants something other than for me to be maximally efficient.

I’ve left two jobs in the last three years over RTO and the org I work for now has a PO box for mail and no physical office.

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11 points

Gotta justify all those facilities expenses!

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4 points

IBM’s so old they make money from leasing their properties.

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15 points

I have to assume somebody’s done a cost analysis on rto and determined that keeping their boots on our necks is more profitable in the long run than employees being happier and more productive.

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25 points

This just layoffs with a different name.

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3 points

And no severance payout

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14 points

IBM is the poster child for never considering the long term effects of its actions. At one point or another in history, IBM was the #1 company making software, databases, managed compute, personal computers, servers, Unix, laptop computers, servers.

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5 points

I have to assume somebody’s done a cost analysis

I don’t get why you assume there’s a cost analysis that could be accurate over the reported productivity increases of working remotely.

It’s likely the obvious, a change that isn’t good but it’s done anyway because people in a company often do not do what’s good for the company, they chase what’s good for them personally.

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Yeah they’re going to drive down costs by having employees quit due to RTO 🤣

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