101 points

Fourth turning theory is fashy crap written by a play write and a business fund manager (people with no credentials for historical analysis), worshipped by people like Steve Banon.

Accordingly it’s totally subjective, a guessing game.

Truth is: No one can predict what’s going to happen.

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35 points

Fwiw it’s playwright

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2 points

Appropriately for the meme - also both boomers.

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Thanks for this insight, seriously. Because of course, it sounds really scary, and we all know which side of the fence relies most heavily on fear based rhetoric.

The “common sense” logic feels sound, but you’re right that it’s deceptive, and trying to use some “system” to both read the future AND use it to scare everyone into thinking it’s doomsday every week? When you think about it, gee, that HAD to be a fashy business fund manager idea lmao.

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It’s predicated on baby boomers not having hard times. There’s no basis in reality. Not unless one were to believe baby boomers are all predominantly white upper middle class. Not to mention one must believe history was all sunshine and rainbows until their generation (millennial/zoomer/whatever) came into existence.

Do they really think people just walked right out of high school into wealth from the career factory? This is basically the privileged upper class. Which is the top percentage of their generation. Guess what? Everyone else had it hard!

So much of current day pop culture “boomer bad” stuff is based on these stupid notions. I wonder how people are going to rationalize when baby boomers are all dead and the class war still exists. I think some younger people are in for some serious cognitive dissonance ahead.

Apart from people parroting these things. Those who actually have those well off parents are admitting their own privilege. The parrots are too entranced to realize they’re worshiping their own oppressors. The upper class. They don’t know they are the cannon fodder in the cycle of hard times, revolution, and renewal.

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39 points

So you’re just gonna pretend the massively documented body of evidence that as a generation boomers have had access to unprecedented privilege in human history regardless of demographic and have also overwhelmingly implemented or voted in systems that have destroyed that framework doesn’t exist.

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Please share this documentation

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24 points

Most people are referring to the fact that boomers were born into the strongest social safety net in American history and then allowed Regan to gut it for short-term gains. The original aphorism may not be true, but I can’t think of a generation it applies to more.

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I mean there is a thing going all the way back to the silent generation who had a taste of the depression and so had some knowledge of truly bad times. Even younger boomers had a decent chance of getting a job that you could raise a family with just a high school degree and older ones could be pretty successful. Having a pension was the usual. Losers who managed fast food could still afford a place of their own and a fixer upper car. I saw these things go away as an Xer but I know its still better than those after me. college loans for me was like a car loan. A very nice car, like luxury care, but still a car. So college was doable even for those whose parents could not help out. It was not long after I graduated that college loans became like mortgages for the millenials. You can have a car loan with no car and get by and you can’t be doing a mortgage with no shelter to show for it. All the while a college degree debased to where its basically the high school minimum needed for any shot. Its that much worse for gen Z and I don’t even want to imagine what gen alpha will have. Thats just economic. Then you take the giant fall back we had with environmental regulations with reagan. There was a lot of environmental consciousness in the 70’s and it essentailly evaporated in the 80’s with yuppies and greed is good. Granted this is mostly a republican effect but who were the reagan democrats? I get that many boomers are great and its not that the generations that follow are individually so great but the way its shaken out it just gets to be a more and more raw deal for each successive generation.

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Not all boomers are white.

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There’s plenty of poor boomers. They’re mostly dead on account of being poor, we’re just left with the rich ones.

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It’s true. But I think the point is that more opportunities were available to that generation. For example, both my boomer parents grew up in poverty. Dad was an orphan. They moved to the city with no money and made careers for themselves. Housing was cheap. That’s not possible today without family wealth (in Australia at least). I’m a software engineer with an electrical engineering degree and I’ll never own a house or retire. They bought houses on public service wages without degrees.

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7 points

Most problems are perpetuated by currently living humans. Those guys suck !

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3 points

They really do. :|

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1 point

Stalin had a saying about that.

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97 points

Boomers were born on the third base and think they hit a triple

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Triples makes it safe. Triples is best

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7 points

Threesomes are fun

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5 points

“Then aids ruined everything”

  • Frank Reynolds
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85 points

Gen X ignored again, with which we are okay though.

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60 points

Here, have a Pepsi.

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16 points

It’s all I wanted.

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5 points

You know he’s never going to give it to you.

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8 points

Pepsi Kona for me please

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3 points

There ya go.

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33 points

I was gonna post that but then I was, like, whatever.

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1 point

Silent as per usual

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8 points

Exactly the comment I was looking for. Tip of the hat to you.

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7 points

Only thing that isn’t okay is to mangle your sentence to conform to the obsolete “never end a sentence with a preposition because some old fogey said so hundreds of years ago” rule 😛

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11 points

I’m ok with ignoring this rule. Most of us do anyway. While we’re at it, can we also put “never split the infinitive” on the chopping block?

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4 points

Yes, please!

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6 points

ESL here, what would have been the more natural way?

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6 points

It’s an invented prescriptionist rule that was imported from studying Latin. You can completely ignore it and you’ll get more natural sounding language.

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2 points

What you wrote was fine. Some people don’t like that sentence structure for stupid reasons

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2 points

Same here. There’s probably other ways too, but personally I’d probably have gone with “and we’re okay with that” or “and that’s fine/okay with us”. Just flows more like naturally IMO.

BTW, in spite of the tongue in cheek way in which I said it, I meant no personal ill will towards you. Just the rule and its tyranny 😉

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It’s the “with which we are okay” that sounds a little stilted. Most speakers would probably phrase that part of the sentence as “which we’re okay with.” It’s just because “okay with” is so common that it almost feels like a transitive form of the verb “to be okay,” so splitting apart sounds odd.

Note that there’s already a different transitive verb “okay” which means “approve” or “authorize,” as in “the boss okayed your plan to use the forklift,” implying that the person doing this has authority or control over whether the thing happens. “I’m okay with it” by contrast typically means something like “I have no control over it but it also doesn’t trouble me.” “Unfazed by” (spelled in this way, not related to “phase”) would be a similar expression.

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47 points

We should just revive everyone who contributed to this dumpster fire and make them fix it before they can go back to being dead.

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66 points

Do we REALLY want zombie Reagan and hundreds of others like that running around again? I dunno about you guys, but I’m so tired of living through Interesting Times ™️ and Unprecedented Events ™️. A zombie apocalypse where they don’t eat our brains, but just fuck up the economy even more doesn’t sound fun.

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5 points

Make Zombie Reagan take Carter’s former place and build homes (by hand) for poor people.

The holy water that leaks out of the sink will probably burn him out of existence anyway.

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Lmao, yeah I can’t imagine why someone would think that reviving them would make them suddenly want to correct their mistakes. They just got a chance to further be shit.

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4 points

Since we’re just playing necromancer, why not have these zombies live in constant agony wishing for true death and the only way they can achieve it is to undo their legacy work which binds their children.

The fantasy was already pretty high, may as well lean into it

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1 point

Watergate Part Two: Electric Bungaloo

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46 points

It’s the 1% against the working class, not generation against generation.

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5 points

🌍🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀 Always has been

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