9 points

The fact that the Pro (or any device) supports a newer USB protocol doesn’t necessarily mean that it will be able to take advantage of the full speed. It might just be as slow as the non Pro with USB 2.0.

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The pro can stream a 4k60 ProRes video to an external drive via the usbc port. Idk what kind of bandwidth that uses. But should give some clue as to the actual speed capable with the port.

Also, onboard storage is limited to 4k30 ProRes, possibly indicating the speed of built in storage.

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iPhone 15 Pro tech specs page: “USB 3 (up to 10Gb/s)” with a footnote that says “USB 3 cable with 10Gb/s speed required.”

A regular need for high-speed data transfers is legitimately a “pro” use case. You need the Pro model and you need to buy a thick, stiff high-speed cable.

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I’m pretty certain that the USB IF decided to use the max possible Gbps as the cable rating, rather than the mess that was

USB 3.0 USB 3.1 USB 3.1 (Gen 1) USB 3.1 (Gen 2) …

So it’s more likely apple are just being specific in the type of cable you need.

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41 points

This is why companies like Apple are malicious.

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33 points

More like standard capitalism. The usb c connectors are not slower then the lightning connectors so its not like they made it worse. They simply refused to make it better.

A bit like Nvidia continuing to maken better gpu chips but refusing to have them release with a more VRAM.

If course in a way, all for profit-companies are malicious. Extracting surplus value from workers and such.

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24 points

So - in your opinion - any company shipping a USB 2 device is ‘malicious’?

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Apple was forced by the EU to stop using their old and worse connector

So they’re complying, but they’re purposefully limiting the less expensive phone as a malicious compliance to that

Pretty simple really

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So lightning cables offer transfer rates of 480Mb/s - USB 2.0 offers 625Mb/s. You are cross that they swapped out Lightning for USB on the main models and use USB 3 as a differentiator in the Pro models. Fair enough, but that’s not ‘malicious’. It’s not even malicious compliance.

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Lightning connectors are definitely worse than USB-C, but when they were introduced the alternative was micro USB which is objectively worse than Lightning cables.

Of course, with wireless charging I haven’t used an actual cable in five years so it doesn’t matter that much to me.

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You obviously don’t get the point. Educate yourself on Apple and USB-C, please.

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3 points

It doesn’t sound like you actually have a rebuttal.

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You mean the Apple that provided more than 20% of the engineering force that developed USBC?

Or the Apple that released the first USBC laptop to market?

That Apple?

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92 points

Or because the base iPhone 15 uses last year’s Pro chip which didn’t have a USB3 controller.

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And probably have a separate controller? I’m not very technical at all but I’d assume it’s much easier to fit a separate one on a large surface like the iPad has

Edit: google confirms the iPads have a separate USB3 controller

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23 points

I had a very quick check and I think iPads use an external chip for USB 3 - and there may just not have been space on the iPhone’s logic board for that. I think you’d have to judge it next year - since the base models seem to be using last year’s pro chips - if the base model doesn’t support 3.1 speeds then, something fishy is happening

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15 points

Apple does a lot of BS stuff, but are you trying to claim the controller in iPads and iPhones is the same, or comparable because of age? Because that’s like claiming the screens are the same, or comparable.

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2 points

There is no A16 iPad (yet?).

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5 points

A Raspberry Pi from years ago has USB 3.1. Restricting the latest iPhone is just laughable.

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8 points

Apple’s base model hardware usually uses last year’s pro chipsets. They’ve been doing this for a bit now.

If the trend continues, next year the base model will get all the newer CPUs, micro controllers, etc.

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8 points

Here’s the rational answer, folks. Anything else is your emotional response.

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If the aim of a company is to maximize profits then every company in Apple’s stead would do the same thing. Not defending it but that’s the world we created.

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More clickbait bs. Oh right, Apple bad!

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14 points

Where’s the clickbait? Apple is bad for using an outdated standard out of spite.

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1 point

USB-C is just the connector, not a protocol

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22 points

It’s clickbait because they’re using last years chip like they always do. It’s not out of spite. The usb controller on the A16 Bionic does not support USB 3.0 because lightning never needed it. The A17 Pro in the pro models has an updated USB controller.

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8 points

“my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge”

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1 point

You do realize USB2.0 predates iPhones and USB3.0 is 15 years old at this point? And no, USB controller is not part of the A17 chip and it never will be. IO is always separate, even Apple knows this.

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Apple:

We had two children. Conner (yay! so handsome!!😍) and…erm, ugh…Billy. We don’t play favorites! Conner gets driven to private school, plays lacrosse, and has a tutor. Billy takes the bus to public school across town, has a sack lunch, and we broke his legs when he learned to walk because he was smaller than Conner.

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Well there’s your problem. You think smartphones are like children.

In this world of yours, do Android phones take the short bus?

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-1 points

No, that’s relegated to Huawei.

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14 points

You’re literally describing every product line ever.

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8 points

Wait til this guy finds out about CARS

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-1 points

Like gambling, buying Apple products is a stupid tax

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3 points

It feels really stupid having the industries longest support length and highest resell value.

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1 point

That’s like saying foot fungus is a great investment because it’s hard to get rid of. Also you conveniently left off that longest support is often required because of cost cutting measures Apple loves to do. How many product recalls were there? And even then they sometimes make them so that no one fits the criteria.

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It’s not hard to get rid of an iPhone at all. I could sell the device in my hand easily if I wanted to.

What are you even talking about? Cost cutting makes them support a phone longer? Supporting a phone longer costs them more money. Literally the antithesis of your claim.

There were 0 product recalls. You may be thinking of Samsung who recalled the Note 7 for exploding. The iPhone 4 antenna design flaw was known inside the retail return window and anyone could have returned it for a full refund. They otherwise offered a free case to everyone who elected to keep the phone (myself included). The first line of Samsung Galaxy GSM phones had a similar flaw if you cupped the bottom rear of the phone; the Vibrant model on T-mobile had an “ass” that stuck out that was easier to cause total network drop on then my iPhone 4 on AT&T, but Samsung did not offer a free case or mitigation.

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I’d wager that owning an iPhone is cheaper than a Samsung Galaxy or likely any premium Android.

An iPhone is typically getting 6 years of iOS versions, plus an additional 1-2 years of security updates. For instance, the iPhone X, announced in Fall 2017 was on latest iOS until iOS 17 comes in this month. iPhone 6S, released in Sep 2015, is still getting security updates.

If you are someone who runs their phone into the ground until the end of security updates, iPhone wins hands down. If you are someone who wants the latest and greatest, iPhone hold resale value like no other and its not even close.

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